So you want another OP redfor aircraft at 11.3?
Sure Su-25SM3 is defiently equal to the FRS1
You really need to get better at this game if you dont think you can pre-flare a 9M. You can easily. In fact it wont necessarily even let you fire a 9M if there is a flare within the seeker’s FoV. 9Ms are incredibly easy to pre-flare, especially without SEAM
Meanwhile, having used Magic II and AIm-9Ms, I would gladly get rid of the 9Ms on most aircraft. Only reason I got the T10 was to have a Gr7 without 9Ms as they no way compensate for the massive BR increase. I never take them on the FA2 and I rarely fire them on the Typhoon.
Only on the Gr4 i get mixed success from them, but thats usually because you encounter a lot of premium players that dont expect a 9M from a Tonka. Though plenty of times ive had them instantly defeated as well by someone competent.
9Ms are only really good in rear aspect shots and the target has semi-energy trapped themselves
Ironic isnt it
you complain about the IRCM but if someone brings up the MAW on the A-10 you say just fire a SARH missile, just do the same against the Su-25T and Su-39 then
Not all aircraft have SARH. Plenty of times I encounter them in something like the Gr1 or FRS1. Most of the time I see people complaining about fighting A-10Cs in the Mig-23ML/MLD.
I do, but RWR gives you just as much warning as MAWS does. Probably more. Su-39 is just as able to defend itself from SARH as the A-10 is. In that capicity, MAWS is actually pretty worthless and if the target hasnt started to defend against the radar lock, then they deserve to be killed.
Though last time I found myself ont he tail of a Su-39 in the F3. All my Skyflash STs were defeated by MP and or chaff. So I had to gun kill him and trying to gunkill an Su-39 bobbing and weaving in an F3 isnt easy.
I have killed many people pre flaring, while flying my F-15, I can tell you, pre flaring an Aim-9M is not easy. That’s even if you know I’ve fired it.
I pre-flare them all the time without effort.
Have a much harder time against R-73 and Magic IIs.
9Ms are only good in rear-aspect. If the target doesnt see an Aim-9M coming, they probably wont see any IR missile coming
Dude just face it. You’re a hypocrite, or your biased.
You can gun run both the Su-39, and a-10C, but you best hope your fast enough that the a-10C cannot turn on you.
so why should i use a sarh against the A-10 you are dismanteling your own argument
and the A-10 has a good RWR as well and is able to detect IR missiles that were fired at it without getting radar pings the Su-39 cant
ontop of that an A-10 has way more match presence and is able to kill whole battlefields in a single pass or just take out your airfield AA and spawncamp you
The only time it’s next to impossible to flare an R-73 is under .3 miles distance, but even then pre flaring will defeat it.
Says the person who wants Su-39s to be 11.7/12.0 with R-77s?
So you agree, Su-25 = A-10
who said that
Then use your guns then. Its an A-10, its not exactly gunna outrun you.
Su-25SM3 can.
Thats a gamemode issue and not an A-10 issue. Mud movers are nerfed enough as it is without punishing them even more for something that isnt their fault.
Also, this doesnt really matter much in terms of BR placement
UnqiueScorpion. A few months ago, He rekcons its perfectly balanced
it has less a2a missiles than the A-10 and also less CMs, ontop of not having the radar pod that the Su-39 has
Nope, and nope.
1st of all, I said either an R-27 or an R-77 would be acceptable. It would also become 12.0, which is fine.
Given the fact ARHs are less effective on the Su-39 as it doesn’t have the launch speed to make them effective, it would be a deadly dog fighter, but again it has no HMD, so it should get both weapons not R-27ERs but normal R-27s and it would be rather balanced at 12.0, and it offsets it’s disadvantages compared to the A-10C which could also be 12.0
Now they are balanced! Wow!
Most Su-25s ≠ A-10s
In terms of survivability. Which is one pillar that people always call as “OP” in the A-10C, it is identical, with MAWS and it still has plenty of CMs.
2x R-73 is fine for a mud mover as well.
So like I said, you reckon Su-39 with R-77 at 12.0 would be balanced.
Which is the most biassed and copium take ever
Okay, then give it 2x more R-73s, if you disagree.
Sure. That would actually be balanced. But would only go to make the Su-25s even more equal to the A-10C. Meaning if the A-10C goes up, so would all the Su-25s. The same would happen if you added R-27Rs instead of 2x more R-73s.
But 2x R-77s = 12.7. 2x R-27ER/Ts = 12.3
can it carry 2 more r73s? I thought the outer 2 pylons weren’t strong enough for 73s