yup, mirage 2k, rafale and a10c all get hmd iff
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thats good to know. ANG F-16’s were the first Scorpion HMD users, maybe the C could get that ingame
9Ms are still weaker than the R-73s found on the Su-25/Su-39 or Magic IIs on the Mirage F1s.
The only useful part of the HMD is the IFF, 9Ms arent usable off-boresight.
It is still one of hte slowest aircraft at that BR which will only really be a threat against aircraft stupid enough to go low and slow in front of it.
Then lets move all the Su-25s up as well. I hate fighting the Su-39 with IRCM which makes it 100% immune to any rear-aspect IR missiles
it is not i have killed them with the r-60m before in rear aspect
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there are no 13.3 bluefor planes because pretty much all of them went down to 13.0
tornado is probably the only one that comes to mind for bluefor
I have never, ever gotten an Aim-9G to work against them from the Phantoms and Ive never gotten 9Ls to work against them in rear-aspect in the F3, FRS1, GR1, etc.
to be fair, r60ms have a much wider fov so its easier for them to keep track with the ircm
Gbps? I’m not sure if there’s a difference, if there is, I do not know.
In that case gigabyte. Very fast speed
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It has an HMD, showing who is and isn’t friendly… pretty op, pair that with a chain gun with plenty of ammo, and a set of 4 aim-9m, all with a maw… what air craft even comes close?
Might be that
Straight up crazy. They break sim. Aim 9ms.
Magic 2s are also immune
also
It is not.
And you have more irccm missiles than both of them
Wrong, not only you have better situational awareness than even most top tier fighteer die to the HMD, but you also have a MAW with 480 countermeasures.
the A10 has a good enough turn rate to the point that it can sit inside your circle for quite a long time, to the point it can get a gun solution, and if the opponent tries to extend away, it dies to the invisible Aim9M
It barely matters when it’s weaponry has a good enough range that compensates it’s lack of speed.
Why
The only one having IRCM is the su39 and probably the su25T as well, either way they aren’t immune to a lot of missiles and to be honest, you can manage to get a gun solution most of the time anyway
Which is about it. Though only tenatively more OP than Su-39 with the radar pod.
Which is no different to the A-10s at a lower BR or any of the Phantoms.
9Ms are just 9Ls without smoke. Their IRCCM is easier to defeat than the R-73 and Magic II.
Which ive never had an issue defeating. Just fire a little later or use SARH against them. Sure they’ll spam chaff, but its never defeat the SARH on the Mirage F1.
the 4x Su-25s at the same BR
Just fire later or fire an SARH in a position where it cant notch it. And its no better than the MAWS on the Su-25SM3
So pre-flare.
No they dont. 9Ls and 9Ms have very low kinematic performance when fired at low speeds. I reckon by the time the A-10C swung round to point at a fleeing mig-23 that they would probably be completely out of range of the 9M and firing it would be a waste of a missile. Or again, the Mig-23 could just pre-flare
So you can get a gun solution against an Su-25 but not an A-10C?
The Su-39 has to give away its location to use the radar. And only works in a 160 degree arc.
The A-10 works in about a 220 degree arc if not greater.
Bro… you did not just say an aim 9m is easier to defeat than a R-73…
All validity of your argument has just been thrown out the window.
Also using the OP mirages as an example of a counter to the A10C, is funny. Because if you think the Mig-23MLD is OP, the mirages would like a word
They are… Easily.
9Ms can usually be defeated with 1 to 2 flares if you know what you are doing. You dont need to defeat the seeker in teh same way as R-73 and Magic II, where you have to overwhelm them, the 9M also can be defeated at any range, Also the IRCCM on the 9M doesnt work in front aspect, like at all.
R-24Rs vs R530s both with similarly performing MTI. Yes. I think in terms of SARH performance… Mig-23MLD vs Mriage F1 is fairly close, though the Mig-23MLD has a significantly superior SARH
lol the Su-25sm3 doesn’t even come close it’s worse actually than the Su-39 in most regards. And it should be equal in br to it. They have trade offs.
Su-25sm3 has 2x less r-73/r-60s to start.
It has no HMD like the a-10c, and has no radar.
As I stated when the a-10c came out it was always going to be broken because of people like you. Who think it’s not that good, and gaslight people into thinking it’s actually bad when it’s one of the best pseudo fighters around.
Pre flaring a aim-9m is a good joke. That only works against R-73s
Having used both, and fought both for years now. Without a doubt, the Aim-9m is superior. In most ways except g overlaod