Yes, the 9L is better overall, specially if you are sneaky and climb. But I’d rather have 2x27er + 4x60m than 2x7m + 4x9L. At least if I care about winning. Also the mig29 flight performance is not as bad as people paint it. FM probably bad, but as far as performance goes, is still quite good, especially the 9.12. And you get a better radar in some aspects
You realize that we are talking about sim in the sim sub-forum.
Teams don’t snowball in the same way as Air RB because people can respawn.
The MiG-29 is not dominant at any BR that it fights at in sim.
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Fair enough. I didn’t initially realize it was sim only.
I’d rather have the latter… on an F-16, which has the better FM by far as well
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R-60M? The missile you essentially need to ram straight into enemy pilots bottom before you even launch if you want it to connect in rear aspect, is better for rear aspect than AIM-9L?
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Then go play the Mig29 and show us … if you have skill issue and never avoid them, it’s your problem, not the Mig29 being op.
Edit: Oh my god, I though you played allways USA, but you don’t even play SB …
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I can carry 5 if you do one 7f and for 9L’s, that’s how I prefer to fly it.
Yes, because the aim9L also essentially needs to be rammed into enemy rear too in order for the missile FOV to not see flares, and at that distance the r-60m works better
I did, both the mig29 and the j11 worked really well mainly due to their 27ers, but that is not reflected in my stats because I didn’t play them as extensively after spading them as the f-16’s, but overall I had very consistent games in the r-27er platforms. Also I don’t main any specific nation, but yes I don’t play sim, my bad for not realising this was sim only, already mentioned that
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That´s what I had in mind if I can get it -50 %. Thanks for confirming that it´s possible. Such a cool ass plane and a must buy even if I don´t have any research need for it. The earliest possible sale will probably be new year´s though.
Yeah I really liked the plane, it has its faults for sure. However I thought it’s pretty decent plane, and while it doesn’t have aim120 or 7m. The 7f got me kills, and at a minimum a lot of time it allowed me to close the distance and make them get defensive on my way there and change at least the head on’s dynamic a bit since I came on in the better position if I saw them in advance. As well, it allowed me to more easily deal with helis from further away.
With regards to GRB, I’m not good at ARB and am learning it now. I mostly got these planes and have the top tier plane I do now simply to get to hire tier GRB and leave the 1DL clickbaits behind and all.
So, I liked it and thought it was over priced for sure… but mostly worth it. If you can get it half price, I say def worth it.
100% sure.
Like, this is what i mean when I say you have a 1 in 10 chance of having a good take. The F-4EJ is the brickiest phantom?? There’s hardwing phantoms in game
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He’s like a slot machine. You know you won’t win but you gotta keep trying.
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The brickiest of Phantoms still as good as a Mig-21Bis.
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You’re just wrong. And the EJ has agile eagle. How in the hell is that more of a brick, than say, the F-4C or J??
And I swear to god, I know you’re gonna cite “but energy retention” as if thats the only aspect of a fighter’s dogfight ability that matters.
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Mig21 changes vector better, phantoms have a huge inertia and drift away too much. Alvis just talks a lot of nonsense
I’ve heard this stupid take so many times. It’s always “The F-4 has better energy retention”. Thats their ONLY point. The MiG-21 does EVERYTHING else better, but struggles with retention because its not a sustained dogfighter.
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@CinnamonToePunch
Mig-21Bis, which flies better than Mig-21MF:
EJ Kai:
And both pull 11Gs instantaneous.
Energy retention is extremely important in dogfights as it allows faster sustained turns.
I see @HighRiskNoReward is also claiming most experts are wrong.
Everyone in the world is wrong to you two. Only you two are the exclusively correct people in your minds.
Keep thinking you’re the only correct people on the planet, there’s a word for that you can lookup for yourselves.
You’re absolutely lost if you think thats the ONLY important thing in a dogfight. The MiG-21 will pull far faster as a 1 circle fighter against a literal missile boat.
Ah yeah thats the only reason anyone would think the MiG-21 would rinse an F-4 in a dogfight. There’s totally no other reason. Alvis, you’re projecting. This proof is subpar at best, and I can guarantee you never fought a MiG-21 in a phantom and had an easy time with it.