Why is the F-16 ADF 13.0?

Well then whatever. F-16A-15 is added to the USA and given 9M then or something.

“Mememememememememe. You haven’t played this thing therefore you’re wrong” Both aircraft have HMS’ therefore you automatically are at an advantage in close range engagements. Both aircraft have good radar and RWR’s.

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Mig 29 good radar ? It’s totally crap !!!

And the RWR in the Yak-141 and Mig-29 are bad too !!!

You clearly have never played them XD

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Its a good radar since it has all aspect PD so it can hold a lock reliably like the F-16. Only downside is that the vertical and horizontal limits in search mode is limited.

On paper … it has TWS also, so on paper it’s better than the F-16.

But it doesn’t work, in reality the F-16A is MUCH MUCH MUCH better …

The Mig29 has an Ali Express radar XD

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The all aspect PD works reliably this is based on experience. I have the MiG-29 and the Su-27. There’s even a PD HDN mode if you want to lock targets farther away.

I see you don’t fly them in SB …

In SB we don’t have labels, and with the Mig29 a lot of times you get people closer than 10KM that your radar should tell you and didn’t.

You play RB, and you only need the radar for radar misiles, in SB it’s vital for situational awaraness.

Anyone that has played Mig29 in SB knows the radar is total crap.

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Ah. Well I guess the lack of a good TWS will do that. But in RB even without labels I can find targets quite well. I even use it for launching R-27ERs as far as 70km.

Yes, sometimes you can do that, in SB too, but it’s not reliable … Ali Express radar.

Sometimes, you don’t see a thread comming headon towards you at 20km, and you see something at 70km. That’s death !!!

The normal PD mode of the F-16 radar gives you reliable information, it doesn’t kill you.

Ah unfortunate then, I guess thats why the MiG-29 is a lower BR than the F-16

To anyone saying Mig29 is OP at SB 12.7, send me a video of you spanking F-16As in it …

The only time I have been able to fly F-16A in a match that wasn’t too unbalance towards Team A, Mig-29s were easy meat for the Falcon. BTW, I had only 2 AIM 9Ls, almost stock.

That’s another one, with the Mig29 you are allways outnumbered

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I partially agree.

  1. F-16A ADF should get AIM-9M
  2. MiG-29 should get R-73s, have R-27ER/ETs removed, have it’s R-27R/Ts buffed (they miss a sustainer entirely and have too high drag, irl R-27’s special trait was low drag) and have it’s flight model fixed if it’s broken. Then the MiG-29 can be a 13.0. I have no clue about Yak-141.

Currently German MiG-29G with R-73s and R-27ERs sits at 13.0 and makes the F-16A ADF look like a joke.

Stop the bullshit, you don’t flight Mig29 !!! Show me a video of you on the Mig29G on SB making the F-16A ADF a joke …

Even an F-16A is aware of all the Mig29 that are close thanks to it’s RWR, Mig29G are quite clueles, F-16A can easily stealth kill a Mig29G

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MiG-29G has TWS, 90 degrees gimble limit HMS, a 40G thrust vectoring IR missile with IRCCM, and THE best SARH missile in the game.

F-16A ADF has a better flight model and RWR…

You should bu the Ali Express PS5, and see what you get, impresive spec sheet, but doesn’t work !!!

Play the Mig-29G and discover how crapy is the radar !!!

HMS and R-73 are good, but F-16 FM is much supperior.

Overal F-16A is better than Mig29 and Mig-29G …

Why is everyone playing USA if Mig29 are OP !!! Nobody is playing Mig29 because it’s crap, and all matches in SB are outnumbered against Mig29

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Yak-141 is just one of those aircraft that wasn’t needed and still isn’t really. Either they remove the R-27E’s and move it down to 12.0 or they give it R-77 and R-73 and move it up to 13.7. it’s got a lot of good things going for it and right now it shouldn’t be lower than an F-16.

So AV-8B Plus 14.0, because AMRAAM are better than R-77, isn’t it !!!

You don’t even need to play, just join SB matches at 12.7 and 13.0 and you’ll see who’s dominating: F-16A, F-14B, M2K, AV-8B Plus, F-16AJ, F-16ADF, F-15A; M4K …

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It should be 13.3 at the very least.

Everyone knows why USA is more popular than Russia at top tier. Their planes are famous, the best in real life and are featured in Hollywood. It has nothing to do with how good Russian planes are. Even if it was F-14 vs SU-57, people would still play the F-14.

Because they would pick a good aircraft over a fat and ugly aircraft.

No way, when they released the Mig29 it was very popular in War Thunder before they nerfed it, and buffed the F-16 …

But even if you were right, the BR of the Mig29 wouldn’t matter, since nobody plays it, people prefer for Team B the F-16AJ, F-16MLU, Mirage 2000, Mirage 4000, F-15J … so why moan about a plane is not being used.

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