That´s what I had in mind if I can get it -50 %. Thanks for confirming that it´s possible. Such a cool ass plane and a must buy even if I don´t have any research need for it. The earliest possible sale will probably be new year´s though.
Yeah I really liked the plane, it has its faults for sure. However I thought it’s pretty decent plane, and while it doesn’t have aim120 or 7m. The 7f got me kills, and at a minimum a lot of time it allowed me to close the distance and make them get defensive on my way there and change at least the head on’s dynamic a bit since I came on in the better position if I saw them in advance. As well, it allowed me to more easily deal with helis from further away.
With regards to GRB, I’m not good at ARB and am learning it now. I mostly got these planes and have the top tier plane I do now simply to get to hire tier GRB and leave the 1DL clickbaits behind and all.
So, I liked it and thought it was over priced for sure… but mostly worth it. If you can get it half price, I say def worth it.
100% sure.
Like, this is what i mean when I say you have a 1 in 10 chance of having a good take. The F-4EJ is the brickiest phantom?? There’s hardwing phantoms in game
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He’s like a slot machine. You know you won’t win but you gotta keep trying.
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The brickiest of Phantoms still as good as a Mig-21Bis.
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You’re just wrong. And the EJ has agile eagle. How in the hell is that more of a brick, than say, the F-4C or J??
And I swear to god, I know you’re gonna cite “but energy retention” as if thats the only aspect of a fighter’s dogfight ability that matters.
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Mig21 changes vector better, phantoms have a huge inertia and drift away too much. Alvis just talks a lot of nonsense
I’ve heard this stupid take so many times. It’s always “The F-4 has better energy retention”. Thats their ONLY point. The MiG-21 does EVERYTHING else better, but struggles with retention because its not a sustained dogfighter.
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@CinnamonToePunch
Mig-21Bis, which flies better than Mig-21MF:
EJ Kai:
And both pull 11Gs instantaneous.
Energy retention is extremely important in dogfights as it allows faster sustained turns.
I see @HighRiskNoReward is also claiming most experts are wrong.
Everyone in the world is wrong to you two. Only you two are the exclusively correct people in your minds.
Keep thinking you’re the only correct people on the planet, there’s a word for that you can lookup for yourselves.
You’re absolutely lost if you think thats the ONLY important thing in a dogfight. The MiG-21 will pull far faster as a 1 circle fighter against a literal missile boat.
Ah yeah thats the only reason anyone would think the MiG-21 would rinse an F-4 in a dogfight. There’s totally no other reason. Alvis, you’re projecting. This proof is subpar at best, and I can guarantee you never fought a MiG-21 in a phantom and had an easy time with it.
Then lose as a 2nd aircraft frags it instantly, and it wasn’t enough to get nose on the EJ Kai.
Oh look, ~500 battles in Phantoms.
Easily fragged countless Mig-21s with them.
F-4C:
Mig-21MF:
How about we put this to rest?
I will take MiG-21 Bis in a duel and you can take F4 Phantom.
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This is where they should be in terms of balancing. The MiG-29s are decidedly worse than the F-16s, crippled by being forced to use R-60Ms instead of their historical R-73s. Same with the Yak-141. The Mirage is limited to 4 total missiles, though I could see it being 12.7. The JA-37D is literally a 3rd gen aircraft…
The real question is why the frigg is the F-15A 13.0, or even the JAS39?
That being said, I would change the F-16s, mainly out of response to a more urgent change of the MiG-29s.
MiG-29s all but SMT: remove R-27ER (not used by any of the MiG-29s except the SMT and 9.13, but the 9.13 would benefit from being the same as the rest), add R-73/E, to 13.0.
F-16A (US/FR), Netz- add AIM-9M, also to 13.0
F-16A ADF (US)- add AIM-9M, to 13.3
F-16A (IT), F-16A MLU- add AIM-9L(I)/AIM-9M, AIM-120B, to 13.7
The AJ can be given AIM-9M and moved to 13.3 or stay where it is, it’s a theoretical aircraft after all
Yak-141- add R-73, R-77, to 13.3
Not necessarily connected to the other 3 families, but the JA-37D is missing the RB-99 that makes it a JA-37D and should receive it and a BR of 13.0, with the 37C getting RB-74 and 12.0.
I have a similar idea, but a little different. I don’t want to repeat myself, so I’ll link it: Gen 2-4 jets rebalance
Edit: In my mind 13.3 and up should be reserved for planes with Fox 3s, since 13.3 always meets 13.7s with the current brackets.
That would mean either the F-16ADFs are the same BR as the As despite having SARH missiles, or the As are 12.7 and fight 11.7s while having AIM-9M, so I’d disagree. 13.3 sure has aircraft with ARH missiles, but that’s on aircraft such as the F-4F or Tornado ADV, with the only exception being the SMT. 13.3 meanwhile already has the Su-27/J-11 and should also at least include the F-15s if not also the JAS-39A.
EJ does not have agile eagle. EJ Kai doesn’t either. EJ lacking DF sparrows and agile eagle makes it the saddest phantom of all imo. Maybe the F-4C is worse now since it got uptiered.
They are honestly better than fox 3 missiles with the ability to switch targets on the fly, reliably at any time, which the misisle was not capable of IRL.
IRL if the radar lock was lost during datalink phase, the missile was wasted as it was not possible to refresh the datalink.
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The ability to turn off radar lock immediately after launch and lock again only when the missile is close to the target is so OP, I almost always get 2 kills early game at 30-40km range with mig29’s, after that I try my luck in the furball by spamming my r-73s from above.
I don’t recall if mig-29g is the same BR as the F-16ADF in sim, but they are in airRB and that makes no sense. 12.3-13.3 balancing is all over the place right now
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Ah, I was wrong. Still, it wouldnt even be able to beat a MiG-21 with it.