Just fyi, this is the SIM section 😉
@ topic: It has better
-Flight model
-Radar
-RWR
-Cockpit visibility
then the planes you mentioned.
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JAS39 Grippen is 13.0 also with better everything, even not mention that he have 6 9M and F16 ADF has 9L’s only.
You can’t aknowledge that snail just fucked up once again?
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Snail fucks up every time, like F-5C and F-5E being same BR,where the 5E should be 0.3 higher than 5C
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F-16 better FM than M2K???
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Sustained yes, one circle no.
exactly! Besides the F-14B (which only has SRC PD HDN), what other fighter is supposed to be able to compete with a Mig-29? F-4J is 12.0, but has 0 Chance in a fair dogfight, the F-16A has no BVR capabilities which only leaves the F-20A, which first of all is a €74,99 premium and can only carry 4 AA missiles (when equipped for BVR).
Meanwhile the Mig-29 can carry 6 including the R-27ER1 which is arguably the best SARH missile in the game.
The only somewhat fair opponent is the F-16 ADF with its AIM-7M.
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I find F-16A is the best plane at 12.7 …
Didn’t play yet any 13.0 F16, but with AIM-7F I guess they are well there.
Very good misiles but many times you can’t shot it because of the shity radar that loses target with no aparent reason.
I have been spanking Mig-29s with the F-16A still stock … so much better the F-16A
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Which is better in absolute everything except the two R-27ER1 the Mig has, which are crippled by the shitty radar of the Mig.
The ADF would be too strong for 12.7.
I see, that it is not the top dog in 13.0, but it belongs more into 13.0 than in 12.7.
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4 things
- F-16 ADF (US/IT) should get AIM-9M/AIM-9L/I (respectively) considering that the Belgian one gets 9M at the same BR
- MiG-29 and Yak are the two most silliest vehicles in the game. One is a 1990’s aircraft with 60’s missiles. Other is a fake vehicle that should not have and didn’t need to be added to the game. MiG-29 should have R-27ER’s removed and put at 12.3 or something. Yak should just be 13.0 considering it has 2 ER’s and 2T’s. (Or they give it R-73 [13.3] or R-77 [13.7]
- Fr*nce is just a sad nation. Held back by shitty radar missiles, pushed forward because of IRCCM heat seekers. If there was a midpoint between the Magic 1 and 2 they would have some aircraft that were between 11.7 and 13.3. I can see why the M2K is 12.3. Will be smoked by anything in a BVR fight but will clap in heatseeker range. Also the fact that it has 4 missiles holds it back.
- Yeah the JA37D being 12.0 seems fair. Maybe it could go up to 12.3 but no higher. It’s held back by having 2 Skyflashes but they’re good missiles. I was thinking they could give the JA37C RB74’s and give the 37D RB99’s.
But we need another decompression session. Move it up to 14.3 and ground up as well. Maybe naval might be more enjoyable as well.
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The Belgian one doesn’t have AIM-7F …
And the harriers with AMRAAMs 14.0 ?
I see in you service record that you haven’t used the Mig29 and the Yak141 in sim, theory is one thing, and how they work another
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Well then whatever. F-16A-15 is added to the USA and given 9M then or something.
“Mememememememememe. You haven’t played this thing therefore you’re wrong” Both aircraft have HMS’ therefore you automatically are at an advantage in close range engagements. Both aircraft have good radar and RWR’s.
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Mig 29 good radar ? It’s totally crap !!!
And the RWR in the Yak-141 and Mig-29 are bad too !!!
You clearly have never played them XD
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Its a good radar since it has all aspect PD so it can hold a lock reliably like the F-16. Only downside is that the vertical and horizontal limits in search mode is limited.
On paper … it has TWS also, so on paper it’s better than the F-16.
But it doesn’t work, in reality the F-16A is MUCH MUCH MUCH better …
The Mig29 has an Ali Express radar XD
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The all aspect PD works reliably this is based on experience. I have the MiG-29 and the Su-27. There’s even a PD HDN mode if you want to lock targets farther away.
I see you don’t fly them in SB …
In SB we don’t have labels, and with the Mig29 a lot of times you get people closer than 10KM that your radar should tell you and didn’t.
You play RB, and you only need the radar for radar misiles, in SB it’s vital for situational awaraness.
Anyone that has played Mig29 in SB knows the radar is total crap.
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Ah. Well I guess the lack of a good TWS will do that. But in RB even without labels I can find targets quite well. I even use it for launching R-27ERs as far as 70km.
Yes, sometimes you can do that, in SB too, but it’s not reliable … Ali Express radar.
Sometimes, you don’t see a thread comming headon towards you at 20km, and you see something at 70km. That’s death !!!
The normal PD mode of the F-16 radar gives you reliable information, it doesn’t kill you.
Ah unfortunate then, I guess thats why the MiG-29 is a lower BR than the F-16