Why is 2C38 on 10.3?

Ok now its akward
Play vehicle with spikes or just see videos about them
The most unrelible atgms in the game after tow 2b

I refuse!

Stat shamimg beyond just seeing if someone plays those brs or vehicle is retarded because its just a way to avoid arguements.

My stats in the 2s38 is awful because I bought it thinking it was OP back when I was signficantly worse at the game back then, not saying im a pro now but I used to be awful. So people will use that to avoid speaking on things like gun depression or profile in my post to say I have no clue.

But if my stats in the vehicle were good, the response just changes to “Well seems like you are doing good in it maybe it does need to go up?”

Just a very cheap way to not engage with ideas and it doesnt matter if the stats are good or bad they will have a canned response for both situations to avoid tackling the ideas presented.

Still havent seen anyone bring up 5 degrees of gun depression vs 17 on the hstvl, it like that stat doesnt even matter when im pretty sure it does a lot.

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I would much rather take the 2S38 over the Bradley.

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My first auto-light was the Begleit which is why that’s still sub-1:1, but after learning how to play them because of videos and the Begleit, I bought the 2S38, and started playing the VCC-80/60 and HSTVL.
So those 3 all have relatively equal stats.
2S38 had a burst of OP when I first got it cause it was 9.7, but it was quickly corrected to 10.0 [10.3 by today’s BRs].

@ZE4L0T
Standard IFVs are worse than Begleit, HSTVL, VCC-80/60, Strf 9040C, and 2S38 for sure.

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strange, for someone who thinks that you cant really speak about vehicle unless you played it, you comment about 2A7Vs despite not playing them.

Curious, if i dare to say :)

Ok so dont come here in claims

Never!

well there are scenarios where stat checking (or “shaming” if you want to call it that) is more than enough.

if theres someone claiming that F-4J/S is terrible plane and needs to go down to 11.0 BR, do you
A) engage in lengthy argument about its kit and how its best played
B) check his stats and see dude is 400 deaths to 20 kills and call him out on that?

Because it’s slow for a light tank. In fact most MBTs have a higher power to weight to it.

If his post is crap sure who cares but if hes outlining from his perspective why just tear those points apart.

For instance even in this thread we have this,

I just reponded with a joke,

theres nothing to say to this because its just flat out wrong and theres no room for interpretation otherwise.

Indeed, I would too until Gaijin fixes the TOW-2B flying behaviour and real penetration values, until then is a situational weapon.

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It’s indeed, but this has nothing to do with this discussion and I believe it’s just anger, going after a personal discussion rather than the topic in this thread.

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The M3A3 Bradley is overtiered, in it’s current state it’s honestly 9.7 or 9.3 material.

It has poor mobility, a big silhouette, poor survivability, mediocre autocannon, and suffers from a missile launcher which cannot fire on the move and needs time to be made ready after stopping.

2S38 can destroy many opposition MBTs even from the front, while moving. The M3A3 cannot do the same. It’s not a good comparison

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It has everything to do with this discussion.

You can dismiss topics by stating that if person have not played vehicle it cant talk about its performance and its just cope and at the same time talk about performance of vehicle that you havent played in different topic.

Bottom line, it makes you a hypocrite. And thats not even mentioning the probable ill will behind it.

its 10.3 because it makes gaijin a lot of money

Why then is RDF/LT at 11.7?

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how about lowering the HSTVL to 11.0

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Tbh I see them a lot however every single time they eat sht and die to something like an Strv 122. Its not really viable at top tier but if you want to rush the Su-30/4 its fine.

I still have to look up a player that does exceptionally well in his 2S38 and isn’t just permastuck at 1.0 K/D.