Let's talk about the Panstir S1 and 2s38

Mixed combat?? Dude, no one can defeat these guys came from last century with 10s’ tanks and jets

HSVT, M1A2S? They are just as fragile as toys to russian tanks, once penned on the weakness they are meant to die, while the ammo stored in T80s and T90s NOT explode even they turned to black on your right top on your screen!!!

And the leopards, the clowns of clowns, since gaijin changed the frontal armor, once penned, DIE.
BTW, where is my TECH-D or E on my leopard???

Seriously??? Are they any tanks better than russian MBTs?? NO!

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You’re not presenting good arguments but insulting others.

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RU tanks maybe not the best tanks, but with Panstirs and 2s38s, they are the best!!
DUDE, COME ON, GIVE A BREAK!! CHECK OUT THE WIN RATE TABLES!!!

LET’S SEE WHO IS ON THE TOP OF THE LIST

how do u def an “INSULTING”

Telling a worth is so called insulting??

Let’s just talk a little bit more

I saw a similar topic weeks ago, what the manager done?? They just ignored the views from there players and closed it.

Mine is about to close soon, All of you know the answer

For ground: LFP, Angled shots, turret ring, turret roof, all of them are weak spots, and if you hit the fuel tank it’s probably a kill due the high rate of destroying due fuel tank explosion.

Most of Western vehicles has the best mobility in the game, use it on your advantage.

Shoot the HSTV-L turret: nothing happens, the Gunner is on the chassis, M1A2 is good vehicle, maybe the issue is between the chair and the computer, it has good mobility, good reloading rate if you have Ace crew and you have the most number of CAS planes in the game,

T-90M is the best option for USSR in top tier while T-80BVM only has the mobility and the protection only is good on the front on very specific areas.

Leopard can hold three or two well placed shots, even in the UFP because the Gunner and Driver eats all the spalling leaving the loader and commander alive.

Strv 122, Strv 122B+, Strv 122B PLSS, Leopard 2A7V, Leopard 2A7HU, CV 90120, Lvkv 9040C, HSTV-L, Leopard 2A6, ZTZ 99A, VT4-A1, Centauro I 120, Type 90, TKX (P), TKX and Type 10 MBT, Challender 2 BN, Challenger 3 TD, Leclerc SXXI and Leclerc AZUR are all far superior over the T-80BVM and T-90M that are the only USSR MBTs on top tier.

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Bait used to be believable

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Russian fanaticism at its finest.
I rest my case.

T-90M is the only tank that’s in the top 10 MBTs in War Thunder, and that’s by combining Strv 122s and M1A2 SEP with the others.
2S38 is a standard 10.0 that Sweden had for much longer.

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Dude, maybe I am a little emotional cuz of rounds after rounds killed in any ridiculous angers, shot down by panstirs, defeated which may lead me to be like this.

Finally you take a time to think about all things you said.

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You are still talking about a tank on the botton in win rate table as a BEST ONE

Again, go and check the win rate table

Just so crazy about that, cant take it any more,

Perhaps I need other games to comfort me, LOL any recommands?

And which countries you have played?

YouTube videos, just stop for a while.

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However, russian vehicles act best in mixed combats, no matter GF AF or anything plays, their performance is extremly overpowered

I researched all in USA GER USSR and Sweden, and which coutries r u playing dude

Win rate is team skill.
Vehicle performance is KDR math, and player consistency is KMR.

Stock performance; both decent, but also need more battles in both.


Spaded performance:



Would you look at that, M1A2 is identical to the T-72B3 and T-80U in performance which gives me a strong indication all 3 are BR’d correctly in relation to each other.
Cross-analysis of capabilities further proves they’re BR’d correctly.

And win rate? I had team mates with more skill on average when playing T-80U and T-72B3, that is all win rate will ever prove.
And I almost never bring SPAA or CAS when playing the Soviets…

Edit: I looked at your stats and your USA stats is similar to your Soviet and Swedish stats.

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I’m not about in general, but last time that made you write this post

Don’t u feel that 1 out of 3 russian players are noobs and 2 out of 3 USA players are???
The main issue is, once M1A2s taken damage, they lost ability to fight back, as for T80s or T90s? There is a great possibility to surivive and kill their enemies, Abrams are just junks in War Thunder so that the snail made them a fire rate of 5 rounds/S.

Just Look at the poor 39% winrate.

Survivability onion makes you a better player:
Don’t be seen.
If seen don’t be shot at.
If shot at don’t be hit.
If hit don’t be penned.
If penned don’t be destroyed.

Worrying about the final 2 means you’re not trying to do the first three.

I don’t and won’t belittle people for their stats.
So if YOU feel like your performance in War Thunder isn’t to your personal goal, adopt the survivability onion into your playstyle.
However, your performance is consistent among MBTs currently regardless of which tech tree you’re playing, and that is something that is admirable.
Congrats on being consistent, as consistency is hard to manage.