Why do CAS players so vocally oppose any suggestions

Now that is delusion.

I’m sorry, but where have you got the idea that you’re being stalked from someone merely responding to you in a public forum?

I think we are going to get juicy SAMs, but juicy for shooting down ordnance.
If we get ARH slingers that fire similarly performing missiles that we currently have for aircraft, I think their effective range won’t be much higher than 10km, as even air-launched ARHs can be dodged at those distances.

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Yeah maybe at first at least.

There are SAMs which are basically vertical fox3s found on aircraft (100-200 kg missiles with 10-20 km effective range), as you said

Heavier systems usually carry some nasty sticks however (400kg - 1T) with up to 50-100km and even more effective range. Time will tell if those will be necessary i suppose.

They really need to make a reward for shooting down ordnance now that i think of it

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That’s why I was thinking they’ll bring ARH slingers as that’s a mechanic we already have in the game.
I think anything with 50-100km of range is too much at the moment, both air and ground included.

Rewards for shooting down ordnance is something we must get with those new AAs, as realistically speaking you’ll get most of your score that way.

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Nah… your need to insert yourself into every conversation shows how needy you are.

I’m not wasting any more breath - I’m done with you

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They already fixed the flying tank thing but only partially, still happen but extremely rarely now as it used to do it every game and I’ve only seen it in 1 out of 30 matches now, I know because I’ve played it like every day. The only thing they overlooked is the late spawn where tank sit on top of each other, so sometimes shooting at them resulting in one bullet killing 10 tanks lol

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Thanks for showing the true reason you can’t handle someone commenting, on of all areas, a forum.

I feel this, is a common ‘excuse’ people find to make issue.

But by their words, it’s not fixed…

Quit trying to gatekeep and make excuses…

I think it’s more than 1 in 30.

Have seen it multiple times this week, and I don’t play assault all that often.

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0 flying tank in 10 games for me today, compared to 9/10 when the update introduced this bug. But I only play 8.3+, which br you play btw?

I have had more assault game than that and now I even starting to miss them because it was a funny bug, at least the AI tank spawned in the same spot and getting kill in one bullet is beneficial to the player, bugs like this can stay!

Lower BRs than that.

Some 6.7-8.0 and some 5.3-6.3

Not every battle, but have seen some today (had to chase the wayward bot with a bomber) and some previous few days.

Considering the fact that people are having issues with packetloss and desync currently, who’d have thought that what I said could be applicable.

wdym? i do not oppose suggestions for JASSM-ER, AARGM-ER, JSOW, and GBU-53?

There are several solutions to this problem:

Remove aircraft from ground completely
This would essentially create a ground only mode but unfortunately render SPAA useless.

Create a separate ground only mode
Creates a mode for players who don’t want to worry about CAS killing them from across the galaxy. This would solve the dilemma of the previous solution.

Decrease the rewards that players get for killing ground targets in aircraft and increase the points for killing other aircraft
Players would be incentivized to kill other aircraft rather than targeting ground players

Decrease the amount of spawn points that players lose when dying to CAS
This would give players another chance to spawn instead of them being sent to the hangar unfairly. Dying to CAS right outside of your spawn would not cause you to lose all of your spawn points.

Make air realistic Enduring confrontation mode
CAS players would have little to no reason to use CAS in ground if they could grind their aircraft in a realistic EC. This wouldn’t completely solve the issue, but it would greatly decrease the amount of players CAS spamming in ground modes. It’s almost impossible to grind strike or CAS aircraft in air realistic which is why some players will turn to ground realistic instead.

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This should not apply to strike/bomber aircraft like F-111, F-15E, A-10, A-6, A-7, some Tornadoes, and most Harriers

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Because CAS mains like free kills.

Maybe not free, but pretty easy. Also, Gaijin created a huge problem when they started selling CAS focused premiums that have no place in Air RB. Something needs adjusted though. If the community had the guts, we could just boycott ground for a week to make a point. Will not happen…but would dry up the supply for the demand.

I do not blame the CAS players, well sometimes I do, but I do blame Gaijin for not thinking through the game elements they add and how they impact existing ones. Adding a mode that focuses on strike missions might help. Adding better SPAAs will help a little. The real change would be to devalue ground kills for CAS in ground RB to a point where it is not more attractive to fly an aircraft for kill farming as opposed to fighting it out on the ground on a level playing field.

Air RB is not exactly well balanced with BR compression, but if I play well I always feel like I have a chance. Even if I am in a plane without ARH missiles fighting those with them, I can still maneuver and compete. In my tank in ground RB, I have no chance vs SU-34s, Typhoons, Rafales, even KA-52. Cannot reach them, cannot hurt them. The one or two SPAAs we do have quickly die. CAS player: “spawn a SPAA or a jet.” My answer: “I ground all these tanks out through a long slug to play them and have a chance to win playing my tank in ground RB…not a plane (I do that in air RB) and not a SPAA honestly…a tank.”

The overwhelming nature of CAS is getting smothering, so I either leave WT for a bit or forever or I just go back to air I guess. I will miss my tanks, but the frustration of being helpless to compete in my tank is too much sadly.

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Increase rewards while also massively increasing the amount of SP needed instead.

They should be high risk high reward.

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I think they should just full send the capabilities of each side. S-400 and Patriots, vs lore accurate strike eagles, Typhoons, and Rafales

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