An interesting thought is why do we have CAS and Artillery support in the game in the first place ?
Personally I believe it is there to shorten game times and to give easy kills to players who might struggle with a straight tank versus tank game, also it makes some vehicles at least have a chance at a kill even if they have been manipulated to try and make them competitive already.
Some vehicles without this crutch become worthless and just window dressing for the accolade of ’ look we have more in our game than anyone else’.
Back in the start, Artillery was actually a field unit out off the field, and we’d go chase it down with our planes.
It was a problem when people started complaining how artillery was bugged and they couldn’t use it, ignorant to the fact we’d flown past them on the field and hit thier artillery.
I feel as though this should make a return, as well as throw in some random AA positions about the field on either side of the field, but spaced out a bit to make it harder for CAS to operate without contention seeing as no-one here can even fathom having any effort or skill in that area.
Is mostly coming from people who don’t want TO and try to justify why air is needed in battle.
You can talk about how combined gamemode can be improved but there is no real reason to not have also a mode dedicated to ground vs ground combat.
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No, we’re not the ones throwing copium as we’re not the ones with the issue.
kthxbai.
You are actually having an issue with people wanting a gamemode for ground vs ground combat trying to gaslight them that they are just bad for wanting so.
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There isn’t a reason to make a seperate mode when the mode can be improved outside of the scope you wish to peddle… I’m sorry, but we just don’t have the issue that you proclaim to have, so therefore it’s not that much of an issue.
And again said improvement won’t change anything for people wanting ground vs ground combat. Yet again You are proving that You don’t understand what most of the people discuss.
“Just because I like current state of things means that it is ok!”.
you know, football is great and rules could be improved, but some want to play rugby.
Very bad analogy because they can go play Rugby, it’s a different game.
That is why people don’t ask for the change of the current gamemode but for new gamemode to be added.
There is no logical reason to oppose this.
so ground only and actual gamemode are…
You’re only proving that you are wanting TO mode, and TO mode only, thus you demonstrate why you are so ignorant to any other points and truly are just arguing to argue because, you proclaim that you’re discussing things, but all you do is statshame and throw shade.
Sorry, but no… We don’t need to change the game to suit an aggreieved set of people, otherwise you’ll end up with a PvE mode, or a mode where no-one dies because no-one liked dying, in a PvP game.
Let us ignore all this times where I have pointed out how intorduction of TO can be beneficial for the health of the current combined mode and how many things could really change because of that.
But ye, it is better to hear how You throw words like “cope” and “skill” in this topic. Gaslighting others won’t really work and is not suited for the discussion.
Let us remain in status que with buffs/nerfs and changes that don’t benefit anyone in the end because “reasons”.
lmao
Next time You ask for any change to be made in game, I’m going to reffer You to this comment.
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try to stay focused on the topic please, we are not arguing over PvE or no-dies or i don’t know what you have in mind,
we are trying to improve our game experience by making suggestions…
Can you die in a ground only mode? yes
Have i mentionned PvE? No, PvP without planes or Helo…
i have also made suggestions to improve life of ground unit in ground mode.
And what if we want ground only combat? you still have combined arms to play so it doesn’t change anything for you…
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It’s not so much an ask now, it’s a demand that’s been peddled for at least 5 years now…
I’m sorry to say it but if you can’t read the tea leaves, then you’re beyond hope.
There is no discussion with you, because you are as you are. No matter how much you proclaim you’re discussing and being all engaged, the fact you keep pushing this and making out that we’re wrong for objecting to you, highlights the error in the thread title, because it’s just you guys, constantly echochambering, and getting upset when anyone disagrees with you.
Leading to these long back and forths where it’s just dismal because it shows how ill the playerbase truely is.
If you flex your KDR, yet not be accepting that it goes both ways, then you’re not considering anyone else but you.
I am on topic, sorry that you can’t understand that.
Nope, this thread was distinctly about why ‘cas’ players object to having the TO mode advocates having thier way.
It’s nothing to do with suggestions, whilst many have been put out in here, it’s not about that.
It’s about the mindset that provokes the '‘need’ for a mode to exclude that which got them… That’s the issue, it’s an avoidance, not a solution.
Cool. Did you even make them in the right place, because this thread, isn’t actually where you make suggestions.
Doesn’t matter, it’s the fact you want to grind without the threat that you deem to trouble you.
That’s the avoidance factor. This is the game, you want to change it to suit you, so therefore, no.
You highlight to me, where I’ve actually wanted anything changed to suit me, because I can assure you, you won’t find it…
Sorry, but you’re clasping at straws buddy… Give it up.
I’m not the one constatly changing the topic.
If You can’t understand, that is fine.
Mindset of wanting something else without damaging fun for others?
Gash, such a bad mindset!
Nothing in here about changes I want made, so no… You can’t front…
And nothing I’ve said in what you’ve quoted has any problem with it…
Stop playing out like you’re so afflicted and hurt by this opposition to your want.
Because, at this stage, it’s all about the not wanting your ‘broad’ solution to avoid the issue, compared to actually fixing the issue by implementing better vehicles and systems to handle this.
I’m not afflicted or hurt because You don’t want TO to happen, please don’t credit Yourself so much.
You still don’t get that it won’t change anything for people who just want ground vs ground combat.
You don’t understand the discussion about TO.
( Just because @Sadibouh deleted thier post… )
And I acknowledged them… I’m sorry but you’ve jumped into a long running argument between me and ULQ, and that’s not on you, but just be sure to know that, because the angle he wants to push is just solely his solution, he doesn’t want anything else, and he’ll happily use you as a pawn in his issue to make out that I’m being unreasonable because I object wholeheartedly to his solution because it leans into avoidance and ignorance.
Your suggestion at least isn’t removal, but additions, and should be the way forward.