Why do CAS players so vocally oppose any suggestions

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It’s not so much an ask now, it’s a demand that’s been peddled for at least 5 years now…

I’m sorry to say it but if you can’t read the tea leaves, then you’re beyond hope.

There is no discussion with you, because you are as you are. No matter how much you proclaim you’re discussing and being all engaged, the fact you keep pushing this and making out that we’re wrong for objecting to you, highlights the error in the thread title, because it’s just you guys, constantly echochambering, and getting upset when anyone disagrees with you.

Leading to these long back and forths where it’s just dismal because it shows how ill the playerbase truely is.

If you flex your KDR, yet not be accepting that it goes both ways, then you’re not considering anyone else but you.

I am on topic, sorry that you can’t understand that.

Nope, this thread was distinctly about why ‘cas’ players object to having the TO mode advocates having thier way.

It’s nothing to do with suggestions, whilst many have been put out in here, it’s not about that.

It’s about the mindset that provokes the '‘need’ for a mode to exclude that which got them… That’s the issue, it’s an avoidance, not a solution.

Cool. Did you even make them in the right place, because this thread, isn’t actually where you make suggestions.

Doesn’t matter, it’s the fact you want to grind without the threat that you deem to trouble you.

That’s the avoidance factor. This is the game, you want to change it to suit you, so therefore, no.

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You highlight to me, where I’ve actually wanted anything changed to suit me, because I can assure you, you won’t find it…

Sorry, but you’re clasping at straws buddy… Give it up.

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I’m not the one constatly changing the topic.

If You can’t understand, that is fine.

Mindset of wanting something else without damaging fun for others?

Gash, such a bad mindset!

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Nothing in here about changes I want made, so no… You can’t front…

And nothing I’ve said in what you’ve quoted has any problem with it…

Stop playing out like you’re so afflicted and hurt by this opposition to your want.

Because, at this stage, it’s all about the not wanting your ‘broad’ solution to avoid the issue, compared to actually fixing the issue by implementing better vehicles and systems to handle this.

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I’m not afflicted or hurt because You don’t want TO to happen, please don’t credit Yourself so much.

You still don’t get that it won’t change anything for people who just want ground vs ground combat.

You don’t understand the discussion about TO.

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( Just because @Sadibouh deleted thier post… )

And I acknowledged them… I’m sorry but you’ve jumped into a long running argument between me and ULQ, and that’s not on you, but just be sure to know that, because the angle he wants to push is just solely his solution, he doesn’t want anything else, and he’ll happily use you as a pawn in his issue to make out that I’m being unreasonable because I object wholeheartedly to his solution because it leans into avoidance and ignorance.

Your suggestion at least isn’t removal, but additions, and should be the way forward.

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Then why are you so adamant you have to shout me down and make out my suggestions to avoid your solution are so ridiculous and unable to be done?

You’ve peddled ‘cas’ players being ‘threatened’ by your suggestion, but I feel that is now projection in this…

I don’t care if it won’t change anything for us, the fact is I don’t like the idea of dumbing down the game to suit ignorance, or removing things because people can’t handle the game they choose to play because they want to play it.

You don’t understand the principals of civil discussion in the first place. While you’ve got some ego strokers to keep you company, the fact is that when it comes to back and forth, you’re just shouting down anything that objects to that precious peddled gamemode you want so desperately, whilst making out it’s for the good of the game, and not just to be less worried about threats.

We don’t need another gamemode, we need solutions to the modes we have because avoidance and removal aren’t what the goal is.

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We do, simply by the fact Air branch has it’s standalone mode, so Ground should get it’s own as well.

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I’m only pointing out that they won’t work for people wanting ground vs ground combat. They are not solutions for them and with TO we could have combined mode made better.

You might not like this idea, but it is the best solution. After so many years of constant nerfs/buffs and changes that didn’t change anything, that is the best way to have a healthy combined mode.

As long as we force people who like ground vs ground combat into combined mode, Gaijin needs to balance things out having them in mind.

You don’t need another gamemode and that is fine, no one is forcing You to play another modes, You can play what You like and with TO around everyone could.

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That’s so overplayed that it’s embarrasing to have people keep putting this out as an attempt to validate ignorance.

This is solely your opinion, which you’ve made clear over the multiple threads that you’ve advertised it in, that you think it is…

It doesn’t mean it’s fact, and this is where I think your misinterpretation of any engagement comes to be a problem.

Just because I disagree with your solution, doesn’t mean I’m closed to changes being made, it’s just I do not like your idea because in my opinion, it sucks donkey balls…

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Not really. That’s only fair thing to do.

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It is not just because I think it is.

You can buff SPAA/Planes as much as You want but for people who want just ground vs ground combat that is just meaningless.

For You it might “suck donkey balls” but for people not wanting the combined aspect in their game it doesn’t.

Again, no matter how much You change SPAA/Planes, what kind of limitations to the air weaponary You are going to provide or even limits, it still doesn’t change anything for people wanting just ground vs ground combat. You might make “air” appearence less frequent, but the thing is still there and always will be.

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So you’re going to spawn ground units where? Because if they’re going to sit back 20kms out from anywhere, then that’s gonna be more boring than an SPAA on the ground maps looking for a plane to show up… Which, is one of the most played out ‘’‘reasons’‘’ for not spawning an SPAA first to prepare for the air threat…

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There’s not many wanting just that, no matter how much you proclaim to have a good amount of players.

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Polls show something else

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Remove Air modes completely and change GB to incorporate planes in a different way. We don’t need dumbed down modes, right ?
If you don’t want to do that, you can give Air modes the same treatment Ground modes received, with hilariously small maps and made-up objectives to keep players in a designated area, within close proximity of Ground units.

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And as mentioned, those polls are hardly representative, and there’s higher likelihood of the aggreived clammouring to any want to fix thier issue compared to players who just keep playing…

The players aren’t really on the forum as much as the complainers.

Nope…

Ummm, again, no… The absurd throwouts you guys put through when confronted and opposed, is exactly the reason that people end up in this back and forth nonsense.

Moving goalposts, changing scenarios to only favor the ‘issue’ and make out that there’s no other solution, no other tactic, no other vehicle to use because you just want to play ground vs ground, when it’s not on offer.

Just straight up, inability to actually discuss anything, just an echo chamber want, and anyone who objects, gets blasted by the dogpile, flexed on in stats, and mocked.

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There’s no valid reason to support Air standalone mode while not being for Ground standalone mode as well. Those things are literally the same, just the vehicle type is different.

It’s far from absurd. You defending dumbed down modes is the thing that’s absurd.

It should be on offer, that’s the whole problem.

It’s hard to seriously discuss something with a dude that thinks caps should be tracked on your profile.

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3586

That’s plain out disingenuious to simplify that point I made out that much…

The fact that you can’t accept that someone capping or assisting in a kill has any part to play on the field is pure ignorance, and the fact of painting it out in this manner which you have is purely deceptive.

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If this argument is going to get more personal it might be best to move to PM. Remember to treat each other respectfully as yall are discussing.

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