Why do CAS players so vocally oppose any suggestions

Then why are you so adamant you have to shout me down and make out my suggestions to avoid your solution are so ridiculous and unable to be done?

You’ve peddled ‘cas’ players being ‘threatened’ by your suggestion, but I feel that is now projection in this…

I don’t care if it won’t change anything for us, the fact is I don’t like the idea of dumbing down the game to suit ignorance, or removing things because people can’t handle the game they choose to play because they want to play it.

You don’t understand the principals of civil discussion in the first place. While you’ve got some ego strokers to keep you company, the fact is that when it comes to back and forth, you’re just shouting down anything that objects to that precious peddled gamemode you want so desperately, whilst making out it’s for the good of the game, and not just to be less worried about threats.

We don’t need another gamemode, we need solutions to the modes we have because avoidance and removal aren’t what the goal is.

We do, simply by the fact Air branch has it’s standalone mode, so Ground should get it’s own as well.

I’m only pointing out that they won’t work for people wanting ground vs ground combat. They are not solutions for them and with TO we could have combined mode made better.

You might not like this idea, but it is the best solution. After so many years of constant nerfs/buffs and changes that didn’t change anything, that is the best way to have a healthy combined mode.

As long as we force people who like ground vs ground combat into combined mode, Gaijin needs to balance things out having them in mind.

You don’t need another gamemode and that is fine, no one is forcing You to play another modes, You can play what You like and with TO around everyone could.

That’s so overplayed that it’s embarrasing to have people keep putting this out as an attempt to validate ignorance.

This is solely your opinion, which you’ve made clear over the multiple threads that you’ve advertised it in, that you think it is…

It doesn’t mean it’s fact, and this is where I think your misinterpretation of any engagement comes to be a problem.

Just because I disagree with your solution, doesn’t mean I’m closed to changes being made, it’s just I do not like your idea because in my opinion, it sucks donkey balls…

Not really. That’s only fair thing to do.

It is not just because I think it is.

You can buff SPAA/Planes as much as You want but for people who want just ground vs ground combat that is just meaningless.

For You it might “suck donkey balls” but for people not wanting the combined aspect in their game it doesn’t.

Again, no matter how much You change SPAA/Planes, what kind of limitations to the air weaponary You are going to provide or even limits, it still doesn’t change anything for people wanting just ground vs ground combat. You might make “air” appearence less frequent, but the thing is still there and always will be.

So you’re going to spawn ground units where? Because if they’re going to sit back 20kms out from anywhere, then that’s gonna be more boring than an SPAA on the ground maps looking for a plane to show up… Which, is one of the most played out ‘’‘reasons’‘’ for not spawning an SPAA first to prepare for the air threat…

There’s not many wanting just that, no matter how much you proclaim to have a good amount of players.

Polls show something else

1 Like

Remove Air modes completely and change GB to incorporate planes in a different way. We don’t need dumbed down modes, right ?
If you don’t want to do that, you can give Air modes the same treatment Ground modes received, with hilariously small maps and made-up objectives to keep players in a designated area, within close proximity of Ground units.

And as mentioned, those polls are hardly representative, and there’s higher likelihood of the aggreived clammouring to any want to fix thier issue compared to players who just keep playing…

The players aren’t really on the forum as much as the complainers.

Nope…

Ummm, again, no… The absurd throwouts you guys put through when confronted and opposed, is exactly the reason that people end up in this back and forth nonsense.

Moving goalposts, changing scenarios to only favor the ‘issue’ and make out that there’s no other solution, no other tactic, no other vehicle to use because you just want to play ground vs ground, when it’s not on offer.

Just straight up, inability to actually discuss anything, just an echo chamber want, and anyone who objects, gets blasted by the dogpile, flexed on in stats, and mocked.

There’s no valid reason to support Air standalone mode while not being for Ground standalone mode as well. Those things are literally the same, just the vehicle type is different.

It’s far from absurd. You defending dumbed down modes is the thing that’s absurd.

It should be on offer, that’s the whole problem.

It’s hard to seriously discuss something with a dude that thinks caps should be tracked on your profile.

1 Like

That’s plain out disingenuious to simplify that point I made out that much…

The fact that you can’t accept that someone capping or assisting in a kill has any part to play on the field is pure ignorance, and the fact of painting it out in this manner which you have is purely deceptive.

If this argument is going to get more personal it might be best to move to PM. Remember to treat each other respectfully as yall are discussing.

1 Like

You ignoring the fact kills are a staple of any PvP game is ignorant.
Ignoring the fact that aircraft vs non-AA tank duel is inherently unbalanced and is fun for only one side is also ignorant.

That poor Japanese TD has literally no play against any aircraft, but is unfairly being subjected to it. You defending this is basically defending unbalanced game with unbalanced mechanics.

1 Like

Yea, nah, no thanks, I don’t need PMs…

I’m actually expecting someone to act upon the issues expressed in this thread where any opposition to the want is met with personal attacks and constant deriding and belittling.

Yes, that poor person choosing to use such a vehicle, ignoring the rest of the team and any effort that can be made to cope with the game they choose to play… /s

Imagine “dealing” with air in this. They are pretty mediocre against tanks and the fact they are literally RP pinatas to air units doesn’t make things any better. Fighting for TO is also fighting for such vehicles.
image

5 Likes

So we should have a proper poll made in game with results showed to the public.

4 Likes

just because we are arguing with a brick wall
maybe there is a meaning in the “why do cas players so vocally oppose any suggestion”
could be that they cant see the problem when they have 1 ground and 5+ air kills

1 Like