Why do CAS players so vocally oppose any suggestions

the engine has a durability (hp pool) if the engines durability hits zero it doesn’t work and is disabled if the durability of a wing spar hits zero it breaks these don’t necessarily destroy the whole vehicle but every part has its own hit point pool instead of a vehicle having a general HP pool regardless of what’s hit its still health bars

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Probably because over the past few years, the only thing that has happened is the nerfing of CAS: nerfing bombs, nerfing missiles, improving the characteristics of anti-aircraft guns and air defense systems, introducing bastard weather. Now 1000 pound bombs next to an anti-aircraft gun do not kill, but at most do critical damage to it. My Maverick just bounced off a light tank. And all so that stupid tankers don’t whine.

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Pretty much.

And nerfs do not actually fix most of the real issues. But as the community at large seems incapable of agreeing on what the “real issues” are, and snail has seemingly washed their hands of the whole “TO” debate, its not likely a real solution will ever come to pass.

The problems in my eyes are 1) mechanics encouraging CAS use in petty revenge, and use of CAS as a killstreak powerup in general, 2) the counters to CAS being ineffective or too steep to learn for newer players, 3) the total lack of proper objectives for CAS other than just tanks, and 4) not full-committing to combined arms which is the game’s selling point.

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Are you kidding? Is countering CAS too difficult? Even an oligophrenic can cope with this; everything is so simplified that there can be no question of difficulty in mastering it. Press two buttons, well, maybe three… And if you still move and even find shelter, look with your eyes at the sky. Not to mention the fact that in the game for the USA on br 9.0 we have one air defense system and the iconic Sergeant York, this generally speaks of the complete lack of competence of the developer, but on 9.3 for Japan there is an air defense system with photo contrast, and the Soviet Union on 9.3 has needles that have protection from interference… And on this br only a few have heat flare. Laughter and nothing more…

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Extremely, especially at lower BRs. Unless you are a very good SPAA player, you won’t do much to any decent pilot.

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For someone who practices, plays a lot of SPAA, experienced, the answer is No, not hard. But for those who don’t care, use SPAA as TD, ignores CAS, hardly touches SPAA, doesn’t practice, or just new to the game, answer is yes. It all depends on the player.

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Adding to this, crew skillls.

With a tank, your slew rate does not make that big of a difference except for up-close fighting.

In SPAA? It’s painful to lose 15-20 degrees of turret rotation AND not have diagonal aiming when trying to shoot down planes that aren’t flying in a straight line close to the ground.

Seriously, crew skills probably hurt planes the most followed by SPAA in how much they limit their full usage.

And as you said lower BRs - most people will likely have only 1.0 or 2.0 in targetting at most by around BR 5.0 or 6.0 especially given how RP gains work and the inherent difficulty of gaining score with a exposed milktruck that has no real penetrating power and planes are harder to hit because lower crew skill.

I think it also depends on nation and BR. As there are definitely some gaps that are much harder to bridge than others.

You dont even know what you are talking about. LOL. Laser bombing on a scimitar. Average “Hur dur cas too strong need nerf” player.

The simple answer is, CAS players are just being insecure in possibility of loosing their easy life playstyle.

I don’t judge them, I would be as well.

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Sounds more like ground player cant dealing with learning how to play, so they want to remove the enemy from the battlefield.

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I haven’t said a single bad word against CAS itself, lol. But okay.

Sounds to me like it’s more an issue of folks wanting to camp and spawn camp against people and never be punished for it, which is something CAS does particularly well.

The less you camp the less likely CAS is to find you, let alone kill you. You’d understand that if you spent more time playing the game rather than on the forum Mr. Sub-2K-Battles.

Yeah, I am definition of camper. xD I died so many times by the simple fact of me not being patient enough and rushing obvious traps or so.

I just don’t enjoy playing AA. It’s not fun for me. I want to play tanks. I like good looking tanks. That’s all I do care about.
I don’t want to bother with planes or some lame rocket wheelies. I am just simply man.

And playing CAS is definitely way more easier (even I can manage to do it with premium p47 I bought. And I basically do not care about planes at all) than playing air RB competently. That’s all I am saying. So I am not surprised by the fact CAS players are insecure about possibility of not having this option anymore.
Majority of them are not good enough to have fun in air RB.

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There is no one “CAS playerbase”. The playerbase as a whole plays CAS. MOST people utilize planes. All of this just sounds like CAS whiner cope

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That’s not true at all. Otherwise there would not be consistent suggestion about CAS free tank battles. 🤷‍♂️

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Ever heard of an ear screechingly loud minority? Even the people who whine about CAS are usually also using CAS regardless of that previous fact

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Because not playing CAS means to put yourself willingly in disadvantage. Just like not playing AA and similar boring BS.

Pure tank battles free of CAS would be popular 🤷‍♂️ prove me wrong.

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Welcome to playing a Combined Arms game where not using diverse line-ups is a self-imposed handicap.

I’m not interested in the moanings of you or anyone else. Learn to use tanks, SPAA and aircraft. If you don’t want to then you have no right to complain about it.

If all you want is tank only gameplay then go somewhere else for that fix because you’re never going to get it with War Thunder. Simple as.

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I just want the thing aircraft players have. 🤷‍♂️ Why they can have seperate air only game mode?

In that case, they should remove air AB/RB/SBs. Just to make the game truly fair. Since it’s “combined arms game” (not really, since that’s Enlisted).

Pathetic. You are insecure about tank players getting game mode that aircraft players already have.

So the right question to ask is why? Do you think combined battles would become unpopular?

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