Why do CAS players so vocally oppose any suggestions

Let us spawn spaa in air rb

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To be fair, if we really are going to make a true combined mode, pure air mode (as only air vehicles are being controlled by players) shouldn’t exist.

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I’m totally fine with people spawning ground vehicles in air RB if they want to drive that far it’s on them

because the game is made for mixed battles

That’s why it can have seperate air battles. And so called mixed battles are called “ground”. Why they’re not called mixed battles? Why seperate air battles do exist?

Because your justification is just false dogma. That’s why. 🤷‍♂️

Make it so people spawn SPAA in sim EC for maximum effect.

Enjoy 64x64 map.

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'Cause then they’d have no Gamemode, it’s like they’d cease to exist without it haaa

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Their " separate mode " comes with AI that can, will and has shot them down. I’ve got personal experience to back that up. So Air matches are not safe from ground-based weaponry taking them out. And because there are ground vehicles and ground targets in those modes they are by very definition Combined Arms modes, as well.

You call me insecure but you have zero ability to fix your skill issues regarding dealing with CAS. I play tanks, aircraft AND SPAA. Regularly. The only insecure one between the two of us is YOU. Git Gud.

Talking an awful lot of trash for having less than 2K battles. How about you up your battle count and then come back and try to debate me.

It is peak irony to be in your position and say shit like false dogma when you are literally trying to use the name of the gamemode as some sort of gotcha. It is very clear this game is made for mixed battles. The reason air doesn’t have morons in SPAA is because that is not a real game… nobody is logging onto WT to sit in 1 spot hoping a plane flies over in air RB. It’s just a joke suggestion ppl make because they think its clever to suggest pretending its the same as CAS in GRB.

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These people really underestimate the genuine size of even the smaller maps of Air battles. They don’t understand they’d spend entire matches just TRYING to get to a spot to even try to shoot at a SPAA but would be completely ignored by the players because they can simply fight at altitudes that even the Pantsir couldn’t reach.

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Love it

People are already crying that “Prop air RB is boring” because they need to fly a whooping 3-4 minutes until merging in a head-on.

A propeller plane has 300-400 km/h after like 3.0 BR.

Now replace that 300-400 km/h with a ~30-50 km/h ww2 SPAA or a 60-90 km/h cold war one and… yeah.

Been flying my PBM in sim recently since “if I got it, might as well see how she fares” and its 250-270 km/h means I take a whole 15 minutes getting to the ground battles and enemy bases with it.

… I really hate the “Why planes in ground, no ground in planes?”

There’s legitimate arguments against CAS, there’s legitimate issues with balancing. This argument just undermines the entire side that wants balance with its sheer bloody absurdity.

What’s my problem with CAS? Spawn/Airfield distance. It’s similar to the map size argument for general GRB whinge - planes spawn in too close and are able to rearm far too quickly (a corsair can drop 3 1000 lbs bombs and be back to drop another 3 1000 lbs bombs in like 90-100 seconds because the runway is around 5-7 km away).

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Hey, I only play WT casually and it’s definitely not my main game.

Seperate tank game mode is something that would keep me in that game a bit longer. For the simple fact that tanks are the only thing that interests me in this game.

For combined arms battles I play enlisted. Which does a much better job in that regard.

Unless WT introduces a separate tank game mode, I’m just never going to enjoy it to the extent that it could.
Thus I won’t play it as much, thus I won’t buy as much premium stuff.

It’s funny how some WT no lifers are trying to gate keep various game modes. With some sense that a seperate tank game mode could threaten them in some way.

I’ve never seen this in any other game community. Truly a pathetic behavior.

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Lots of people have requested that CAS spawns from the airfield and that the airfields be farther back. It’s a reasonable request that’s been made as far back as the old forums. Unfortunately for us all, Gaijin refuses to implement it.

  1. Don’t care.

  2. Don’t care.

  3. Don’t care. Uninstall and go play Enlisted then.

  4. Don’t care.

  5. We’re only GateKeeping people like you with your garbage arguments. Either make a better argument that has some level of logic, or stop making them entirely.

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Need I remind you that you have less than 2K battles? You have barely experienced War Thunder.

Difference:

The A.I does not care that it’s sitting in a position doing nothing for 10-15 minutes until a player comes within distance.

A player will likely be bored right out of their brains.

AAA in sim EC looks like this:

There’s a convoy that spawns at somewhere like B2 (near an airfield). It’s heading towards B5 (half-way to the map).

B2-B5 is like 32 kilometres, plus minus 8 depending on how we’re counting sector edges (each sector is 8 kilometres). This is for the smallest maps. On afganisthan or similar, it’s 48 to 64 km distance (each sector is 16 kilometres).

That convoy spawns in at like, 30 minutes into the match and will slowly trudge along for many, many, many minutes and will reach the frontline to create a ground battle at about 50 or 60 minutes into the match.

Now, you take your Havoc or IL28 or dorito or whatever ground striker you have. You attempt to dive bomb this convoy and it shoots you out of the sky at 1.5 km altitude while you’re flying at 500 km/h. I’ve only played a few korean BR sim matches, but replace that 500 km/h with 900 km/h and you get the same result. The convoy AAA is utterly busted laser-precision murder machines that care not for how many Gs you’re pulling at what speed, it will shoot you out of the sky with cannons.

However, again: that convoy is taking 20-30 mins to reach its objective AND the player wanting to kill it is taking around 10-15 minutes of flight time (at least at korean or below BRs).

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Well, I don’t care about your opinion either. I only responded so that others could better understand my point of view. 🤷‍♂️

I don’t need to justify my position to some console player. (Who can’t even use the Gaijin marketplace services, so he has far lesser potential financially for Gaijin.)

You either make a comment when You say that AI can shoot You down and players will be able too or that both can’t.