Explains how and why.
Just make artillery more potent for pure tank battles. Problem solved. It could prevent from camping far more effectively than CAS.
No need for that.
Well, I too think his argumentation with camping is little bit silly. But I just wanted to prove him that CAS is definitely not some irreplaceable solution for camping, lol.
Look at his in-game profile and it will tell You the whole story
… Sometimes I am seriously concerned about people’s ability to take in a whole post’s context and comprehend it without big flashing letters.
“An argument is made.” Therefore - not my argument, it’s an argument made by people previously in this thread. It is argued that CAS, as it is, is only a problem if you camp.
Therefore, as you can infer from the very plain in-your-face context of the rest of my post, I am writing to refute with the observation that you can have a bomb dropped onto you while you’re still moving into position a mere 2 minutes into the match - nowhere enough time to start camping with slower vehicles.
This observation had been caught by ULQ, and they linked their post where they did just what I experienced: A corsair showing up a mere 2-3 minutes into the match attacking vehicles still moving into position (C&F tactic)
But I suppose reading comprehension and context-inference is an art lost to ages past.
I shall elaborate further to reduce the reading skill requirement:
Argument made: CAS counters camping. You only die to CAS if you are camping.
Reality:
Bombs dropped on enemy team at 22:30 or so while they’re still moving towards A or B.
Is there anything else I could use to make it clearer for you?
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Yeah, sorry that I am need to camp at objectives by design to cap it.
In fact, majority of my deads by CAS are either on objective when capping or few moments after I just freshly respawned. 🤷♂️
What a great improvement for gaming experience.
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Have you read my post, have you actually processed what was said or did you merely see a few words and react to them without actually considering the context the words were made in?
Have you never in your life encountered someone who cited a statement made by someone else as a way to begin their own statement?
Why are you arguing with me when I am literally posting that CAS does not only kill those who camp, but those who are still moving into position at the start of the match?
What?
I reacted to what I have just quoted, that’s all. I could not care less who came up with this kind of argumentation. It’s not important to me in any way.
You literally said “i want to prove to [her].”
Not in my last reply, to which you responded again in similar manner.
As I have said, I don’t care who came up with this argumentation. It’s fundamentally false. That’s what actually matters in context of this discussion.
But I do apologize. (If that’s what you wanted to hear.)
Yes, you can still get CAS’d while driving - And bigger vehicles are easier to spot potential targets - However primarily CAS targets sitting tanks as those are the easiest targets to go after. Such has been established as a fact for years through countless player’s repeated behavior.
However, the more time you spend moving diminishes the chances of getting CAS’d compared to where if you sit still, the chances increase. It boils down to simple math and cause and effect, at the end of the day.
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I do this, I refuse to engage with its overpowered BS. I only got up to that rank with time and money so I could spawn them for CAP only. Way more fun for me.
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Lol.
Easiest targets to hit, but not to spot. A moving tank is far easier to notice, whereas staying still if you have some buildings/trees to break your sillouette means that you’ll often go unnoticed unless they already knew exactly where you were and are just beelining for you.
Depends on the environment, frankly. A lot of maps you have a grey, brown or green tank against a very contrasting backdrop(the ground) which makes them easy to spot when sitting still. Urban maps, desert maps, snow maps are where they all stick out like a sore thumb unless they’re under/in concealment like trees or bushes, and that’s provided it’s not a BR where CAS has access to thermals.
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It does depend on the environment, though even some urban maps (namely advance to the rhine) its very easy to go unnoticed. Lighting conditions are also a big factor as if there’s low contrast, a tank will look just like the house next to it.
But generally I find it far more common to get bombed while fighting for a point and not while in a forest being a stinky rat.
True enough.
I have videos too that shows me stoping/counter this kind of gameplay. Just either the player or someone in the team has to be willing to deal with CAS. If no one does, CAS will continue to be an issue. Dont even have to use SPAA either.
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I don’t distinguish between deaths by CAS or deaths by other ground vehicles. As far as I’m concerned each map will have tough opponents with great situational awareness. If I’m careless, I’ll get nailed by a tank, if I’m spotted I might get bombed.
I can understand but not sympathize with with the sentiment of “I should be able to play my tanks in a tank only envrionment”
I can understand that if you like tanks, learning to use an SPAA is just time not spent in a tank, and time spent doing things you don’t enjoy.
In a tank only mode you can narrow your focus and not have any distractions from tank only combat.
The reason that I can’t sympathise is that: “You the player chose war thunder” you chose the game, and that means all of the game. It’s not as if Gaijin pulled a bait and switch, it’s not like Ground RB started out as tank only and then Gaijin deceptively introduced planes to ground battles to the betrayal of the tankers.
I reason I mention the above, is that players aren’t simply suggesting a ground only mode. They are instead arguing that the game is in an unacceptable condition without tank only. It is their arguments justifying why they are entitled to their Tank only mode. I’m a firm believer in the Sentiment that there are no ‘CAS Players’ instead they are the ‘War Thunder Players’ the people demanding the tank only mode are the ones who have shown up to a game and demanded changes.
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