Why dont they just remove bombs from fighters so fighters can do there thing and bombers can do theres just like in ARB
Yep, though with that its 12+. So that adds extra cost (and AGMs are a lot better as well)
Those are 11.3.
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Because the base cost of any aircraft is way too high. F3 for example is 4x 9ls and 4x Skyflash, doesnt even have the option to bring in any form of ground attack weapon except its limited ammo, 27mm canon.
But its SP cost is higher than a heli with 16 ATGMs.
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If i had my way, all vehicles would cost the same and ordinance would cost the same again per iteam
And your SP reward would be the same per kill on top of your starting SP
and I have advocated for exactly that as well. I’d have no issue with 75% of the cost coming from loadout and not the vehicle.
You can actually take that one step further
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So i guess you’re saying Fighters as Role type, right? So that Attackers and Bombers still bombing in GRB, right?
Anyways,… have you ever heard of Multi-Role and Omni-role aircrafts.
Basically, all WWII fighters were multi-role, with specified role defined at takeoff, depending on loadout and mission:
- Bombing
- CAS (could be strafing)
- CAP
- Escort mission (protecting Bomber from CAP)
Basically what was possible Daily for a F6F “Hellcat” or F-4U “Corsair”
This was the way of thinking, until 4th gen Jets:
Multi-missions flights, became the norm.
And i’m not going to break it to you, but Rafale became a pinnacle by being Omnirole.
This is now the basis for most aircraft in the world.
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Not too mention that many fighters can be quite effective with some gun strafes
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Muli roll does not do it all in 1 go, you can change load out for a particular job
So back to the point, “why do ‘CAS’ players so vocally oppose ‘any’ suggestions”, it’s not ‘EVERY’ suggestion, but almost all ‘suggestions’ have been removing everything to suit a few.
And when anything is said about it, that’ll cause a whatabout throwabout session, a heckload of villification of people for merely opposing or not finding the issue shown to be as bad as what people put out, then we just end up with a bickering match because someone has to be ‘wrong’ in some form, compared to holding another opinion.
Not all of those ‘opposing’ are ‘CAS’ players, and not all of the suggestions are opposed. You can merely question anything, and someone will make out you opposed it… It’s the nature of these forums currently, and those that are trying to reside in it by force and threat.
Not to mention, the sheer spam of reported and subsequently ‘hidden by the community’ nonsense that went on…
yes, though the Typhoon FGR4s currently conducting “operations” at the moment, are likely still armed with A2A weapons and can more than easily defend themselves from an air based threat
Just like p51 did after escorting bomber from britian to germany, but got there ass’s kick while over germany. They never could carry bombs that far, if there was a runway cloxe enough germany would of hit it with what ever
10 years now. And I was there, when ground was implemented. But we didn’t have jets that could hit you from outside SPAA range. Or jets that can come in supersonic 5ft off the ground and lay down a swath of rockets across your spawn without a single possibility for SPAA to do anything about it unless they’re stupid and pull up after their run.
I wish CAS fanboys (most of them can’t hack it driving tanks) would for once see the absurdity of their counter arguments when they just revolve around some variation of “git gud brah”, “just spawn a plane” or “just spawn SPAA”. You are worried your “fun” is going to be impacted. Tank drivers’ “fun” has been impacted since the introduction of guided air to ground munitions and supersonic jets with a fuckton of rockets.
CAS fanboys’ entire argument is that it’s okay for them to have fun at others’ expense, but if the tables are reversed, suddenly it’s toxic, and dumb, and stupid.
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Same with Mirage 2000D (1988) or Jaguars or Mitsubishi F-1 or Etendard IVM (1954), or Rafale.
Even the A-6 was able to use some IR AAM for basic defence against air-air threats,…
Same with A-4B if the mission was requiring it.
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Suggest additions and actual solutions then rather than being upset at people when they object to the general one-track-record.
Yeah, Jags and Tornados were always armed with 9Ls in the Gulf War, Heck the Gr4 was upgraded with ASRAAM and HMD specifically to enhance its ability to defend itself
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F-86F with 2x 1000LBS bombs → this one was fun ^^"
Want some bombs from outside range? Let’s use some B-57…
In 2014, those aircrafts were as dangereous as was the Ho-229,…
You can complain of current implementation, it is not new,…
Oh, like the “just spawn an SPAA brah” or “just spawn a plane bro” that keeps coming from the pro-CAS side you mean?
I see. Practice what you preach :)
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Currently, … and sadly this is you that don’t wanna hear/watch all of the conversation,…
You’re not here to debate but to impose views,…
I never said everything was right in the game, but your Cas complainner thing is to remove everything with no other options,… and that’s not acceptable, either by Cas pmayers and either by Gaijin, which:
Soo,…
There’s more to that advice though…
If you don’t do it you leave the team vulnerable, and that is the actual point of using what is available to you.
This is purely dumb because I actually do…
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