When is Gaijin going to fix the BRs? im tired of getting killed by R-27ERs an Matra Magic 2s in 11.7!

Well for the mirage 3 it’s more to introduce a better progression through the br system and also make a balanced contender to the early mig 21s.

Sorry for the digression as it is off topic

Magic 2s in front aspect are not guaranteed kills. I’ve done head ones with them before, I could be 0.6km away, and they’ll still go after flares. Rear aspect is a different story, as long as I’m within 3km, it’s always a guaranteed elim.

You know, the Mirage F1C at one point did not have Magic 2s. Guess what? It was considered the worst premium, and a complete waste of money. The Matra radars are piss poor, considering the fact that they can be chaffed off by a bubblegum wrapper, and the Magic 1s were undesirable at a time when all aspects were king (yes, the R-60Ms at one point did not suck).

Also, it is now 12.0, it’s not going to fare well with the worst radar missiles at the BR (those radar missiles are only good at 10.3 because no one has the ability to counter them), as well as substandard rear aspects when you have MiG 23s with R-24s, F/A-18s with AIM 7Ps and Ms, F-16s with AIM 7s and AIM 9Ls, MiG 29s with R-27ERS and ETs. There is no way that plane will be competitive. The only competition they will have is: who will be the first one to quit in a complete uptier.

I used 530F extensively lately, and while you present some cool “tricks”, the 530F is still one of the worst radar missiles for the BRs it shows up at lol

Only because the mig15 is currently massively undertiered, yes.

There are two F1s, simply give the F1C the magic 1 and put it at 11.0, and keep the f1ct how it is

They do need them, and no they don’t avoid most missiles. It takes a lot of skill to fly these and do well.

Magic II is not stong at all is flerable with 1 flare seems to me IRCCM not working at all + is not 50G like irl many reports have been send already and current BR for F-1-200 it’s a joke overall 12 BR meaning you will play vs 13 all the time and Radar missile slingers start at 12 so you can’t even bomb because Mig 23 ML will go first and bomb bases with napalm atm French missile are joke except MICA seems to me many of you not have Clue about current situation of French Jets.

I’m going to talk over this guy and say the magic 2 is perfectly fine and incredibly strong when used correctly. It’s also far more agile than the magic 1 leading me to believe the agility is also fine/correct.

Don’t care if you write over my facts are facts ,multiple reports have being send already and they acknowledge the problem Matra Magic 2 have same characteristic of Russ missile in game so yes QQ more.

https://www.forecastinternational.com/archive/disp_pdf.cfm?DACH_RECNO=592

They aren’t facts, they’re just ramblings of a player that doesn’t know what he’s talking about, lol.

You know damn well who’s doing the cryin’ here :)

“Magic 2 its not strong…”

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Lmao every post you do is sarcastic with 0 insight, keep it up

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So the MIG is somehow under tiered at 8.3? Its not but lets pretend it is and it goes to 8.7. Now it fights 20G missiles with no flares. Along with MIG 19/ 21

So now to balance the other flareless migs have to go to 9.7 and now fight J7D and F5s. Not feeling it.

Its a trash can system and logically the only way is for a lower BR up/ down.

It is! Yes! They downtiered the MiG-15/17 and the F-86A/F without downtiering ANY OTHER jets at their BRs! Fun fact, the MiG-15/17 and F-86 were the BEST JETS at the BRs they PREVIOUSLY OCCUPIED BEFORE being downtiered!

Like every other 8.7!

Yes! but regardless the migs and f86s would still go higher in BR due to just being better than everything at their BRs!

idk i havent had much trouble flying the 3C, mostly by flying like a little rat

It can do fine, it still takes far more skill to do so than with similar BR jets with flares

All the 8.7 that usually have after burners/ lock ons/ both and can already just run away from the 15?

Glad you are not in charge of BRs…

Theres 7.3s that can fight a MIG. MIG is far away from being OP.

Just remind me again what you are doing if a MIG 21 or f104 decides he isnt going to fight with any jet around or under its BR?

If they are faster it is usually not by much at all and its because they trade in pros/cons. They are likely faster but won’t hold energy as well or turn as well etc.

There are also just a shit ton of 8.7 that don’t fit what you say… G.91, Mystere IV, J29, etc

you want to keep this adult-like and just say you disagree? is that an option for you?

Such as?

The same that every other 8.7-9.0 jet does?

Re-read: Slowly. Carefully. Read it twice, three times if you have to. Drill it into your skull deep.:

7.3 Sea meteor, su11 alot more compete.

Might not be as good but has a chance. Unlike when vs actual OP jets like i said the f104 is invinsible if it chooses to be.

MIG gets 160+40 rounds of the hardest guns to shoot on game. How many kills is this in reality?

The g91 gets missiles… one of the things i said.
Others get bombs to 1 pop bases which i forgot
Others are faster. Doesnt matter by how much if u cant catch them.