r60ms arent good at dogfights either, and theyre pretty bad for ambushes cause of their low ranges, 9g are great at ambushes because of how long range they are, 4 9gs have much more potential for impact than 4 r60ms. if you think f4j and mig23 are equal its likely because youre playing f4j wrong, theyre very different aircraft.
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F4-J speclizes in longer range combat thats it missile bus you sit at distance and fire missiles ive used R60MK and its a short range high manuveribility missile good for close quarters fights 9G is a ranged FOX–1 missile you launch it at targets 3 miles plus and its long range it hits cause the burners off
MIG-23 can do both long and ACM fights F4-J can only do Long range fights
f4j is much better at long range, mig 23m has only 2 r24rs after that its much weaker. f4j has 8 great missiles.
you need to play the f4j more
yeah but mig-23 is a jack of all trades which is far mor favorble in todays climate
only thing hinders mig 23 is radar not being able to manual switch modes
The F-4J has just 4 IR missiles that can only seek planes if u launch them from the back, and the 4 radar missiles aren’t that good, i almost never died by AIM-7F, and if i died by them it was cuz i didn’t nottice it.
It isn’t that good, and it lacks in maneuverability, and its very normal to shred ur own wings when turning at high speeds.
to be fair ive never ripped wings in phantoms
aim9gs are much better than r60ms. and aim7f are also very good and you get 4.
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only on F8 have i done that
yes at cost of FM model
not particularly relevant
everything has trade offs
kinda is when you fight mostly planes that can get you in CQC which your often forced into cause of lack of teams
i mean not really? youre not forced to participate in the furball, just play right. f4j and mig23ml/d shouldnt be the same br. f4j is simply better.
forgot to mention the f4j has an HMS that is incredibly usefull
not particularly relevant? i won a dogfight against a F-4E Phantom II cuz the Phantom is heavier than the Flogger, and in rank 7, dogfighting stills being something normal.
you get forced into the furball because half the team gets on you becaus your teams dead as they just rushed bases
Flogger pilot caught lackin bro forgot he could just energy fight you and win
yeah it really isnt as relevant, as radar, missile quanty and quality.