When are we going to get BR decompression, seriously?

These changes (albeit quite slowly) do decompress the lower BRs

They decompress the lower BRs that does not need decompression and by compressing the already compressed BRs some more.

From BR 1 to BR 7 we have primarily pre- and WW2, that is roughly 10 years of development and really all that happens is an increase in armor and firepower until they started throwing in all the Swedish things and whatnot anyways, with planes mostly limited to just simple bombs.

7 BRs for 10 years of tech.

And then the next 5 BRs it’s literally everything from the 1940s to 2020s with massive developments in technology, from stabilizers to thermals to APS to ATGMs, to APFSDS to ERA and other kinetic and chemical protection to jets and helicopters with a whole array of ground striking capabilities, laser guided weapons, radars, warning systems laser rangefinders.

5 BRs for 80 years of tech.

Just increase top BR, moving things around without expanding the BRs is a complete and utter waste of time, moving a Tiger to 6.0 is a joke and making it face an IS-3 is not decompression, the Tiger ll H and P at the same BR despite a clear difference in vehicles is not decompression.

Take everything from 7 and up and increase everything by 2 BRs, that’s decompression.

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The last parts are arguable, but yes, this is very true.

I don’t get the point of decompression for low tier which is very fairly balances when 7.3 and higher BRs are all messed up and compressed to hell.

That’s why I don’t agree with the BR changes they are doing right now, it solves nothing.

They’ve been changing BRs since forever and the issue of compression never went away. I don’t even know if it is pure incompetence, or Gaijin somehow making big money out of compression, although can’t imagine how.

It’s ridiculous for sure, we all know the saying “insanity is doing the same thing over and over again, but expecting different results”

I’d actually consider paying money if I felt I got some value out of it… $60 gets you so little in this game it’s nuts, the price of a triple A game for a vehicle that could be a copy paste of TT vehicle in the first place, but is also just 1 vehicle out of 10 slots, assuming you also spend money on that as well, then also you need to buy a crew on top of that and you still only have 1 crew for 1 vehicle of 1 nation out of 10 nations with 10x ground, 10x air, and however many times naval and helicopters.

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The last parts are arguable, but yes, this is very true.

If BR 7 becomes BR 9 then there is a lot of space to decompress in the void down to 6.7, and even with 2 extra BRs you’d run out of space before decompressing the whole mess but it’s the only way decompression works, moving things around is not and never has been and never will be decompression.

You can squeeze a balloon anywhere you want, you can move the air from one side to the other but it’s never going to have less air in it and reduce the pressure, only less air or a larger balloon would.

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This show more or less the same, is better stay away of Germany between 7.0 to 8.0.

No, because not every one of the changes raised the top BR. So by definition, they are not all decompressing. Any time you don’t raise the ceiling, you did zero decompression. Not “small steps”, ZERO, because it just causes a traffic jam elsewhere, and +X amount of decompression, along with +X amount of compression = no overall net change: What people mean when they say "You didn't actually decompress". they DON'T mean "fix the whole game at once" - #26 by AurenKarach

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Because they removed the entire lineup from 7 to 7.7 and only left France and Russia there to just shit on 6.7.
The only thing left at 7.0 and 7.3 is the Kugel at 7.0 for some reason, can’t get HVAP though because your Panzer IV chassis is super OP at 7.0 somehow, and the Wiesel at 7.3 to drag the entire 6.7 lineup to it’s demise.

And the Leopard 1 was barely hanging in at 7.3 to begin with, placing it at 8.0 is just insane, it has no redeeming qualities against all the things it ends up facing, it was at a k/d of 1.6 or so at 7.3 and just dropping like a brick since the increase, and 1.6 is already very average for TS performance.

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Thunderskill is useless, you should not use it. WT Data Project (which is a layer on top of Thunderskill) is even worse, since it has additional bugs in its code on top of Thunderskill’s

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Makes sense. I thought you meant +2 for EVERY BR, essentially having something like 20.0 hahah.

At this point we should be closer to 20.0 than 10.0 to be fair.

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It was the culmination of a decade of garbage or lack of changes

No, it wasn’t, because if that was the case, people would have been slowly lowering their reviews for “a decade”. They didn’t. Reviews actually went UP over a decade by a good amount.

  • Players considered the game likely to be fun for new players as of March 2023 (great reviews)
  • Then NOTHING CHANGED to May 2023.
  • Logically, therefore, it is not possible for the game to suddenly be unlikely to be fun for new players as of May 2023, so reviews would necessarily stay high if they remained honest evaluations of a new player’s likelihood of fun.
  • The change in reviews is, therefore, responding to something other than a new player’s likelihood of having fun. That is against Steam’s best interests. So of course they don’t allow it.

As a Steam user, I appreciate that I can actually trust their reviews to reflect how likely I am to have fun, and NOT random political movements or beefs or other things I don’t really care about while browsing the steam store.

not just the CAS issue

CAS didn’t change from March to May

not just the SL grind

SL grind didn’t change from March to May

not just the RP grind

RP grind didn’t change from March to May

not just the BR compression

Compression didn’t change from March to May

not just the bias issues

Bias didn’t change from March to may

and so on

Literally none of your examples did, so NONE of your examples explain a sudden swing in ratings, and are thus must be excuses/not the reason for changes. All that was the same in March, when reviews were great. So reviews based on any of that would still logically remain great.

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Like I said already, it wasn’t one thing, it was the straw that broke the camels back, people aren’t constantly changing and updating their reviews.

“Wasn’t one thing”

No, it wasn’t a combination either. It wasn’t ANY of those things, in ANY percentage of each. Those do not mean the same thing. There literally was not even a single straw added, nothing changed. Zero straws cannot break a camel’s back.

You felt emotionally slighted by an implication of something, but the game didn’t actually change.

New players will not find the game fun or not based on whether you felt emotionally slighted by something that didn’t actually end up happening. So it is off topic for steam reviews and correctly removed.

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Yeah, nothing at all happened but a 100,000 people just decided to leave a negative review out of nowhere.

Nothing changed in the game. Like I said pretty clearly.

“People left bad reviews” is not “something changing in the game that is a logical basis of bad reviews”. Leaving bad reviews is why they left bad reviews…? If so, “circular logic” is also not of relevance to new players, and would also be off topic.

Then read the reviews, they’re not just randomly saying the game is bad cus bad, and new players are definitely affected by a bad game being bad anyways. New players don’t exist in this magical paradise free from all these issues.

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It doesn’t matter what a review says. If it says “The grind is terrible” but the grind didn’t change since earlier when reviews were great, then it is a necessarily dishonest review motivated by some external factor, not motivated the actual content being discussed. I.e. people wanting to stick it to Gaijin, not people who actually naturally felt this was an issue worth writing a review about on their own. That is intentionally misleading new players.

If it was honest, it would have been posted previously during any of the earlier times when the grind was exactly the same before too, not all coincidentally on one date.

Or rather, a few % of them might be honest, but in aggregate, some 95% of them weren’t (the proportion spiking above normal background levels). Since Steam can’t sort them out, and the 95% dishonest ones have way more impact, it is reasonable to simply temporarily freeze review math until things settle down.

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The grind is terrible, and the grind was terrible, changes are gradual however and there isn’t an obvious point for people to randomly leave a review about it until people just had enough.
The sun moves across the sky all day long yet you don’t notice it and you can’t see it move until it starts getting dark.

And then they pushed the update about an economy based on vehicle ranks, which ended up being entirely different as advertised and people have every right to mad about it and to this day nothing has improved.

I have no idea where you get it from that people are only allowed to be upset if you kick them directly in the balls but they cannot complain if you only slightly hurt them day after day, year after year.

The game is bad and is getting worse, that is relevant for new players who should avoid getting into a game that is bad and is declining.

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Great! Did you leave a review about that in march, then? When that grind was exactly the same? How about February? Or January?

  • If yes: then your review wasn’t suppressed, so what are you complaining about?
  • If no: why didn’t you? Since it was the same? You didn’t care about new players back then? Just suddenly in May you did?

“changes are gradual” (edit: multiple quotes are broken)

ZERO change is not what the word “gradual” means. They did not make a small change that just barely surpassed some threshold. They made ZERO change. Which by definition cannot pass a threshold, and cannot break a camel’s back.

“A guy standing there staring at a camel but not adding any straw to its back, broke the camel’s back” is not a popular saying, for a reason.

“The sun moves across the sky all day long yet you don’t notice it and you can’t see it move until it starts getting dark”

It didn’t “Get dark”. Getting dark is a change. NOTHING CHANGED here. Bad analogy again. Desperately trying to invent logical reasons out of thin air, because you know that none actually exist.

“if you only slightly hurt them day after day, year after year.”

They did NOT “slightly hurt them” NOTHING CHANGED.

Literally. nothing. from March to May.

Additionally: the review freeze is, as we speak, no longer in effect. So even if you did have legitimate gripes, and just happened to coincidentally post them in May, good news! You can simply just go re-post it right now, and it will count.

The only reason someone would be upset about only that one specific period of time being frozen is if their main interest was not in actually honestly just informing new players (since they are free to do that right now), but if their main interest was stirring shit, which required a community frenzy to be whipped up, which isn’t happening anymore.