When are we going to get BR decompression, seriously?

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The grind is terrible, and the grind was terrible, changes are gradual however and there isn’t an obvious point for people to randomly leave a review about it until people just had enough.
The sun moves across the sky all day long yet you don’t notice it and you can’t see it move until it starts getting dark.

And then they pushed the update about an economy based on vehicle ranks, which ended up being entirely different as advertised and people have every right to mad about it and to this day nothing has improved.

I have no idea where you get it from that people are only allowed to be upset if you kick them directly in the balls but they cannot complain if you only slightly hurt them day after day, year after year.

The game is bad and is getting worse, that is relevant for new players who should avoid getting into a game that is bad and is declining.

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Great! Did you leave a review about that in march, then? When that grind was exactly the same? How about February? Or January?

  • If yes: then your review wasn’t suppressed, so what are you complaining about?
  • If no: why didn’t you? Since it was the same? You didn’t care about new players back then? Just suddenly in May you did?

“changes are gradual” (edit: multiple quotes are broken)

ZERO change is not what the word “gradual” means. They did not make a small change that just barely surpassed some threshold. They made ZERO change. Which by definition cannot pass a threshold, and cannot break a camel’s back.

“A guy standing there staring at a camel but not adding any straw to its back, broke the camel’s back” is not a popular saying, for a reason.

“The sun moves across the sky all day long yet you don’t notice it and you can’t see it move until it starts getting dark”

It didn’t “Get dark”. Getting dark is a change. NOTHING CHANGED here. Bad analogy again. Desperately trying to invent logical reasons out of thin air, because you know that none actually exist.

“if you only slightly hurt them day after day, year after year.”

They did NOT “slightly hurt them” NOTHING CHANGED.

Literally. nothing. from March to May.

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Additionally: the review freeze is, as we speak, no longer in effect. So even if you did have legitimate gripes, and just happened to coincidentally post them in May, good news! You can simply just go re-post it right now, and it will count.

The only reason someone would be upset about only that one specific period of time being frozen is if their main interest was not in actually honestly just informing new players (since they are free to do that right now), but if their main interest was stirring shit, which required a community frenzy to be whipped up, which isn’t happening anymore.

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Great! Did you leave a review about that in march, then? When that grind was exactly the same? How about February? Or January?

I did, 2 years ago, and then updated it in May, as described in the review itself.

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Oh right, nothing changed, that’s why they had to rollback the changes that weren’t changes because they didn’t make changes.

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That’s why they had to apologize for the changes they did not make.

That’s why they wrote this garbage where they treated the players like infants who just don’t understand the big brain of Gaijin

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That’s why they acknowledged not addressing the concerns that were voiced over time.

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That’s why they held an entire survey and analyzed them because nothing happened at all and this is just without reason.

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That’s why they created an entire roadmap, because nothing at all happened during the month of May that led to this.

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Makes total sense for a 125k people to go out of their way to leave a negative review in a matter of days because nothing happened and they just randomly decided to create probably the largest community response Steam has ever seen.

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Surpassed only slightly by Overwatch 2 which is a massive franchise and a mainstream game with a lot of media attention, and they only barely managed to be more upset on the day the game got released on Steam than Warthunder players were on a random day in May close to 10 years after release because nothing happened at all.

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Creeping normality is a process by which a major change can be accepted as normal and acceptable if it happens slowly through small, often unnoticeable, increments of change. The change could otherwise be regarded as remarkable and objectionable if it took place in a single step or short period.

It’s almost like Gaijin has read a psychology book and is constantly doing these sort of things.

The only reason someone would be upset about only that one specific period of time being frozen is if their main interest was not in actually honestly just informing new players but if their main interest was stirring shit.

Again, my review clearly stated it was primarily aimed at new players. literally word for word, so I’d say that’s a pretty false assessment of my intentions.

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And the end of the review

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So yes, clearly my main interest was steering shit and I just needed to be part of the community frenzy and not actually honestly just trying to inform new players, which apparently is not possible according to you.

And I did all this because nothing happened at all in May.

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When you roll something back, it doesn’t exist anymore. Fun fact. Reviews left after that point (the vast majority of them) cannot be based on that and are dishonest. And ones before that are at best lazy and accidentally misleading for not being updated, even if not intentionally misleading (but most probably intentionally). It’s still not good for Steam to leave up for Steam’s interests either way, even if it is just lazily not updated. It’s still not giving useful info to the new player on their store.

"[a long list of articles that don’t mention anything changing]

If you knew of something that changed, you would have just said what was changed like a normal person, not danced around saying anything and everything under the sun other than a simple direct response ;)

Nothing.

Changed.

Which also means zero creeping normality, zero creeping anything, zero straws on zero camel’s backs. Zero frogs being boiled. Zero anything.

Nothing.

Changed.

Not a little bit, not a lot, not gradually, not with green eggs and ham, not with Sam I am. Players just wanted to stir shit and be dishonest. Steam rightfully shut down their dishonest tantrums and protected new users’ interests. As they should.

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Yeah, they turned back time so it didn’t happen and we have no memory of it, I stole your car but also brought it back so I never stole your car and I cannot be prosecuted because I never did anything.

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Nothing changed from when reviews were good, to when almost everyone left their reviews. Things in the interim that were rolled back are obviously irrelevant, since the Steam review page is for telling new players who WILL download the game what they WILL experience and if it’s fun or not. The new players WILL not experience anything from a rolled back update, so reviews mentioning it are dishonest, and against Steam’s policies, and for obviously good reason.

Thank you for confirming you’re specifically among the dishonest people yourself, though, by confirming that you think players should leave reviews based on things that in no way affect a new player’s experience. You weren’t just confused or not thinking it through. You did think it through, established that you understand full well it doesn’t affect new players, but still want to stir shit against review readers’ interests. Oof. Be better.

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I play 13.000 games and advise you not to play the game.

Classic case of “Do as I say, don’t do as I do”.

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Thank you for confirming you’re specifically among the dishonest people yourself, though, by confirming that you think players should leave reviews based on things that in no way affect a new player’s experience. You weren’t just confused or not thinking it through. You did think it through, established that you understand full well it doesn’t affect new players, but still want to stir shit against review readers’ interests. Oof. Be better.

Hmm… a game being bad and getting worse somehow isn’t relevant for new players… I wonder how that works.
A ship that is sinking is not relevant information for future passengers, that somehow is not relevant information for them.

Pretty blatant who the real dishonest person is.

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Still you

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Yes, I’m such a dishonest person for leaving a review of the game, unreal.

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Here’s a simpler way of pointing out basically the same issue I was getting at before from a different angle. Clicking your name: “Miragen: 45 battles last week.”

“New players: don’t recommend this, it isn’t fun, but also I choose to regularly play it for an hour every day over all other possible activities I could be doing”

🤔

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I can assure you I have not played 45 battles last week.

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And funny how you just stopped reading at the moment the information didn’t fit your narrative, somehow I played 45 battles last week but also haven’t played in 43 days.

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Regardless I fail to see how that is relevant.

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My advice to new players is based on the current form the game, which is worse than when I started, this is not 2014 and players who are starting now are 10 years behind, it’s not the same thing.

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That is true, but the review bombing was the straw that broke the camels back. Gaijin was going to do some economy changed, but the community thought that was the last straw because of the negative changes, and decided to review bomb War Thunder.

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“I left a bad review 2 years ago”
“I updated my bad review in May during the bombing”

Last I checked, 45 days ago is after both those events.

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If nothing changed, there is no “last straw.” Adding one more straw is a change. There was no change. So there was no straw.

“Gaijin was going to do some economy changes”

Does the saying go “The straw that someone was considering maybe adding to the camel’s back but then didn’t, broke the camel’s back”? If not, why isn’t that the saying?

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Yeah, and if I had not played since you’d spin the argument around how I did not play the game and only left a review to take advantage of the frenzy or how I don’t know what’s wrong with the game because I don’t play it enough, I get it.

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No, actually, I wouldn’t have argued that. The imaginary fake version of me you’re talking to does sound like a dick, though, I agree.

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Sure.

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The proposed changes were the last straw. Players knew the game would get worse if they were implemented. It was a culmination of poor changes Gaijin was making that led to one proposed change causing uproar.

The community realized that they cannot allow them to happen, and that they need to take action and get Gaijin to make War Thunder better.