War Thunder has so many mechanics that are simply damaging from gameplay perspective but they are here because of Gaijin’s greed. Crew skills and whole Expert/Ace crew, vehicle modules, SL and whole economy around it like repairs, ammo cost, crew training, etc. - all those things are there just to extract money from players and does not provide anything good from gameplay perspective. It exists only to create frustration and push some players into spending money to be either competitive or to have some sort of advantage.
This is one of the reasons why I do not bother with lineups because I do not want to grind 5 crew slots. Also one tank lineup has advantage in stock grind as I simply do not grind modules on vehicles I am not interested in and I also do not grind modules on copy paste vehicles as there is no reason for me to.
I think maybe if they gave you the game for 6 months free then charged a small subscription from then on for everybody then maybe the game could be stripped free of all this crap and we could enjoy playing more, but when did you ever see Gaijin charge small for anything? This game is becoming more and more like a mobile game for kids.I think ODL is just a symptom of a wider issue as you say.
They could make it F2P with limited access(like rank V at max) and subscription based for full experience. Something similar has Trackmania where F2P has limited access and with subscription 20 Euro per year you get full access to live service game and there is no BS mechanics, just pure gameplay where only thing that matter is your skill. Trackmania is perfect example of well executed live service game. Some F2P games go with overpriced cosmetics but those will never have any impact on gameplay, which is ok in my eyes. But than there is War Thunder trying to min-max monetization in every possible aspect of game, which is sad because there is no other game like war thunder so they get away with it.
I would say I was forced into ODL for a while and my game style became so negative for me and for my so called team. My stats must have died : )
I watched a couple of videos that made me realise that we actually have a “Play to grind” vs " Play for fun" scenario.I never thought about it like that but then I always had premium.
Against 1DL it would help if there is a bigger reward or multipler for time in battle, so maybe you get only a small amount of rp and sl in the moment of the kill and at the end of the battle you get a big boni for time in battle (also in comprehansion to the time the battle take so if the battle takes 20min and you were 20min in the battle you get 100% of the boost but if the battle takes 30min and you were 20min in the battle you get bit less. It wont help against all 1DL but maybe it would help against those who leave after 5min of battle
Also play to fun scenario is quite difficult to achieve consider MM based system where most players will have just one relevant queue for they and even then you have to deal with stuff you would rather not deal with like maps or for some CAS. Server based PvP games are much better in this case where you can choose server with most optimal settings that fits you so fun is maximized.
Given my recent events in this game,I found that play to the end when I have
1: A full line up at a certain BR ,eg Germany at 6BR, USA at 6.7,Russia at 4BR etc etc
2 : when every vehicle is modded fully or most of them anyway.
3: I have a map that I can use at least some of my chosen line up.
4: I have no agenda except having some fun,and War Thunder can be,lets not be totally negative : )
I ODL when 1: I have an agenda. Like Battle pass.
2: I have only one vehicle at a certain BR due to line up.Either premium or just the way the line up is for for lesser nations.
3: Quite a new one but on big maps on lower tiers I simply cant be bothered to drive so far for so long. Amplified by unmodded vehicles losing 80 BHP and doing 6MPH top speed.
4: The uptier but not just any uptier.I mean the full uptier when all or most of my line up are unmodified and I am firing poor ammo and doing a quarter of my top speed with no repair kit or FFE
With ODL Gaijin makes a rod for its own back and it likes to share the pain.
I’m sorry looking back at my post a couple days ago not realizing the 50% off and japan ground only event coinciding made me realize it was not harsh enough. This company deserves nothing.
I tend to ODL when we get stomped like tonight where I achieve like a 30% winrate despite being in the top 5-6 in each matches doing good while the rest of the teams are just bad or unlucky.
Why should I punish myself in higher repair cost and being spawnfarmed when I already got 3-4 kills, a cap and a couple assists before dying.
If the match goes well, I use a universal backup and stay in the fight, if the team get stomped, I GTFO and try my luck in another match.
I’m tired of the quality of the players that I get paired with, it’s not their fault, but it’s not mine either, they need to implement a ranked mode where you get a rating like in siege for example where bronze play with bronze and so on so we can expect to have teammates with skill levels somewhat similar to ours.
It would benefit everyone, good and bad players, help them improve too without being too frustrated and I would gladly then bring full lineups but for now it’s just not enjoyable.
And I don’t care what poeple think about that, I’m playing a game to have fun, not to please other poeple.
to be fair when i look at account users who die by 1 death leaving i end up needing to report them due to them being a bot account user with premium vic.
i never leave after 1 death though but there are so many bot accounts out there now that i need to report at least 3 people each match due to this BS
This is from October of last year, so im guessing i can wait another 6 months for a reply but since its hard for you to re-read what you put i outlined it for you.
Turret Basket, since with the addition of turret basket to USA,GER,SWEEDISH tanks it became more frustating to play with that countries. Getting 1 shot and your whole tank is immobilize is not worth spawning. Before i could spawn my full lineup, but after that horrible addition it is not even worth it.
Some circumstances when I will leave after 1 death
When there’s 3 caps, 14 of my team goes to one cap, then on toward enemy spawn right after that
Ash River - when my team won’t leave spawn areas and just camps
Abandoned Factory when the lemming train heads to the warehouses on the hill, opposite side of map from the water/railroad tracks - EVEN WHEN THE LONE CAP IS AT THE WATER SIDE.
When my “team-mates” give no support and just sit there looking to improve their K/D ratio
So basically it’s because of the team I get stuck with. I’m just an average player, but if I see my team is not making a reasonable attempt to complete the objective, I bail. I’m not wasting my time being a target so the others can skeet-shoot.
