Now that is impressive 🤣
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Thanks for your comments Necro. You seem to be an honest and fair moderator. TBH us joystick/pad users took a lot of flak from the mousers back in the day because they didn’t like what we said (and we weren’t really protected by the mods - a lot left).
This is a much better game with a pad or stick (most are too lazy to even try), but it’s very unfair gameplay wise, and, yes it can drive you into a rage because of it (but I don’t want to fly a UFO).
No, that is not possible, the automated msg is triggered by “X” amount of reports in “X” amount of time, and it is a very short time period, not an accumulation over any long length of time, it is all “recent” . . and it is just a warning, not a threat.
And automated, not triggered by the GM’s or any person.
I thought so, too. Good ol’ naval battles :D
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I’m surprised I’ve yet to get a warning from a few PvEers that I made mad in air SIM yet
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About the passive behaviour thing. That is exactly my thinking too. But if that is the case then it should not be an option to report someone on it because the term ‘Passive Behaviour’ is meaningless. People that report others on it are one dimensional. Sure, if you have 5 team members left and there’s a PE8 in space and you are going to lose on tickets then it’s frustrating. But so be it. It’s never bothered me. If you’ve got 5 team mates left then work out another way to win instead of complaining. To me that’s all part of the game, and the people that do so should really be in AB.
This is why there is a ticket system. You usually find that if your team opt to ground pound, they get wiped out and you have to find a way of surviving until the tickets or time runs out. It seems that some impatient opponents get upset about this and feel that they should win by default, simply because more of them have survived…
I had assumed the timing thing was in operation as that is much fairer. It proves then, that I am being reported for something I couldn’t have possibly done.
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This is imho not correct.
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The warning message is generated automatically after getting above the threshold of 10 complaints.
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This is totally independent from the fact that complaints are not investigated at this point of time.
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A warning in the classic sense is to inform somebody about rule breaking behaviour with the goal to stop this behaviour immediately to avoid consequences.
So technically seen this message is useless as:
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It does not prevent punishments if rule breaking behaviour actually happend but investigated later than the message
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As stated earlier the quality of reports is decisive, not the quantity
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There is therefore no educational effect attached to this message, it just informs about a random number (here 10) of complaints
In other words - it might be worth to think about a deletion of this auto-generated message as it fulfils no purpose.
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I actually agree, and i have seen others state the same. I didn’t say i think it’s a good system, just why it’s there. :)
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You could have waited at least one month more - than you would be in a 12 month interval regarding this topic:
Have a good one!
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Ha ha I just couldn’t Uncle. And if I see you in battle you’ll know why I can’t reply to you anymore. May come and help you though if you are on my side (you give the instructions for obvious reasons).
Yes, this a topic that always comes up every year or so sadly.
I think the passive thing has been put to bed and shouldn’t be an issue.
Foul Language - well, everyone’s got a profanity filter which **** things out, but yes he’s right - still it boils the blood if you get killed by a bot gunner from a mile away or you see a n00b being picked on by team killers - I think that’s why I was made a community helper in the first place, some mod must have picked up on some of my (less feverish and abusive) rants.
In the past I have let goaders get the better of me and have replied when I shouldn’t have (I see saying nothing as a sign of weakness). Sometimes, yes, I admit to have started it. One of the worst times was when I saw my nephew being set upon by a level 50 team killer. He was level 1. It made him not want to continue and he hasn’t touched the game ever since. For this I gave the guy a mouthful, because he just said “not playing if this is what happens when you start off”
Team killing - just measures are in place (kill a more expensive friendly then you pay the repair) but it is frustrating to see a few tkers ripping through the team (especially if you are against the Russians).
If you tk a second time in a match the system should kick you (I’ve never accidently tked twice in 1 match). TKers are not kicked enough sometimes. Maybe the algorithm needs a little tweaking.
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Just don’t teamkill teamkillers, just report them.
But to be fair, I will teamkill when someone tries to ram my rudder or something like that to make me crash. Happens very often if you play harriers on CIS servers, many eastern players are toxic like that, they also kill each other often from nationalistic reasons
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If that’s the case then I got lied to by the moderators lol…
I had 3 squadrons reporting me constantly for a month, just for showing up thier squadron leader about the Keen Vision skill.
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What did you do? Offend the LGHDTV community, furries, femboys?
Do you know, the “skilled” can sometimes shoot you in certain places where you are disabled but it’s not enough to kill you. You then promptly crash and have to pay for the repair yourself. This has happened to me a few times and I’ve seen it happen plenty to others in replays etc.
Someone says I just “tickled” him. Sometimes it happens where an inexpensive to replace aircraft (A36) tks something like a spitfire V (tier III) which costs considerably more to repair. This is something that is extremely annoying, because these “aces” don’t get punished.
My advice is that if you think you are going to be tked then make it hard for them so that they have to hit you with quite a few shots. Unfortunately this is no help to a beginner as their un-upgraded machines die if tickled (which is what happened to my nephew). No game is cheat-proof of course but the snail do more than most to irradiate it i suppose.
I don’t really like being passive towards team killing etc. but Gaijin have given me, and others like me, no choice. Perhaps if I stopped swearing…
Imho this “passive behaviour thing” is a complaint mainly used by guys with wrong vehicle choices and way too low experience.
In case you want to collect several of these 10 complaints warnings:
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Try to spade some early German jets - even if you are able to kill or distract / occupy the best enemy aircraft - your own teams collapse after a few minutes thx to severely undertiered US jets at 7.0 or USSR jets at 7.3.
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And in very rare cases of full downtiers or (more often) that you are the only jet (left) in the match you have half or their team trying to catch you and therefore effectively neutralize you as can’t turn into them as your get outranged with your MG 151s or MK 108.
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So you are forced to pick up some of their ground pounders whilst maintaining your speed and trying to avoid getting cornered. This might lead to frustration within the enemy team and resulted in multiple warnings in December (playing ~ 80 Me 262 matches) but i won’t fight multiple opponents in head-ons just because their planes are too slow.
Example:
I had yesterday a 25 minute match in the 162 with 0 mission score. I tried to go for the most dangerous opponent (F-89) but thx to the shotgun spread of my unspaded MG 151s i missed clear long range shots and all i could do was trying to distract the enemy fighters so that my last 2 teammates (He 177 and Ju 288) could ensure a ticket win…
So - just ignore those warnings.
I doubt you were “lied to”, that is not what any of the Game Masters do. They are however bound by a NDA that everyone of them signed(and I still honor this myself as . . I gave my word). So it is possible that they were not able to tell you exactly how part of the complaint/reporting system actually works. Thing is, if some details are released to the player base, then there could be those that use the info to do things against the Rules or in bad faith and stop just before they might get any sanctions, so . . . not all info is available. But as far as the direct “accusation” goes as listed in that msg. If any rule violation is reported in report bombing, it will be listed there. The number of reports doesn’t matter. Remember, it’s automated. And also good to remember, when these players are “report bombing”, it is good to keep in mind, they do not care what kind of complaint they lodge, they are going for quantity, as in their minds they think this is going to have repercussions on the player they are falsely accusing. Again, it won’t as they are all invalid/false reports. Players are limited to how many reports they can make in a day anyway, so the goobers doing report bombs are wasting ALL of theirs on a single player, for no good reason.
And all it really does is clog up the report system and makes GM’s job that much harder . . . someone should really make a video explaining many of these things.
It might help, but then again . . . . it might not . . . lol
See this similar - i enjoy flying the 3.7 Ki 61 in the Chinese TT and i always spawn and take off as last guy as i saw way too many TK in my team.
But: In case you want to spice up boring matches - i recommend to throw in randomly “China #1” or “Taiwan #1” (or both with a delay) in the team chat. I saw some amazing results regarding interactions with my team. 😉
They told me what they told me, to make me placated to the fact I was being targetted directly.
The fact that I was being reported for ‘everything’ by multiple bad actors, and that they were all originating from 2-3 squadrons all linked to one leader, who was the one who had issue, and even said that he’d be doing it.
I raised this to the GMs with no true action, even going so far as the CM because of the fact that it was direct abuse of the squadron system, calling on his zergs to mass-report, and it should’ve cost them their squadrons because of what they were doing.