Top Tier Russian Fighters are worse than nearly all of their competition

The point is this ^^

So many people try to undermine the abilities of the ER. I’m not saying its on par with Fox 3s, I’ve repeated have said this already.

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How weak do you think other people are thinking it is? I don’t often see people trying to say R27ER = AIM7M, but rather that in MOST SITUATIONS, the R27ER cant do anything to an AMRAAM carrier and neither can a sparrow

^^ Dude I literally just quoted this

You edited, I edited.

Uhh. I didn’t edit that quote in

I am saying we both didn’t fully make our posts yet…

I will say in a very simple way, the r27er is an excellent missile, its performance is better than any fox 3 in game, perhaps the whole game, this is the performance of the missile itself.
The problem is with a plane with r27ers and its radar only handling “one shot” at a time, against a plane that has a radar that can fire multiple missiles that are pretty good and not have to sit there and hold a lock, despite a good gimble on the r27ers plane. Couple that with the fact his mates have unleased a hailstorm of their own fox 3s. That is a major disadvantage. However, I can think of a lot worse missiles I could have in an uptier than a r27er. As far as the performance of the missile itself, is there any better missile in game? This is performance I am speaking of, not usage. Up until fox 3s arrived my personal distance records were with the r27er. Now my own personal distance records belong to the Fakour, and I will chalk that up to inexperienced players who cannot dodge a 18g pull missile for the most part. LOL I will sometimes carry r27ers instead of r73s, to go along with the r77s, they are just that good, in that situation perhaps, in a close encounter with HMD mode enabled.

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I still doesn’t think your point have that much value in this thread. Considering the top tier russian jet are still pretty mid, sure the missile are good but in this fox3 meta those don’t have as much value as they used to and now with everyone being forced to learn how to notch and deck hugging probably to avoid getting hit by a AIM120. Yeah ER effectiveness really diminish , that doesn’t mean it is bad. Just everyone being force to not suck in ARB and it doesn’t help that the jet carrying those thing have one of the worst FM

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pls do not tell me this is how you think missiles work

You do know that it is not always the inexperienced player right ? The missile doesn’t only have 18g pull , there lot more to it

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Yes sir, I know that, I was just pointing that one facet of the game out, Im not that picky, perhaps I will provide discourse on it… yes energy, mass, speed of the plane, TWS… yes I understand

Yes I know, this is just one facet of many, I understand that, Im just not picking apart every answer on here

Getting clapped by ER in BVR at the current ARH meta is like getting clapped by an R-60 in a plane that can shit out flares for an eternity.
Or like getting clapped by a low tier vehicle in your MBT.

Just because you witnessed a YT-worthy humiliation moment, doesn’t mean stuff you used is even remotely competitive in a described setting.

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Chat is this real

Crazy how people can’t read.

I’ve never said the ER is competitive in a fox 3 meta.

This is like the 5th time I’ve had to correct someone and its getting a bit annoying. Read previous comments for context before jumping in and assuming my points.

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Please keep it on topic guys

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I can read pretty well.
It’s obvious your posts with videos are a clear way of trying to portray ER to be better than it actually is in the current state of the game.

Your anecdotes have no meaning to the thread buddy.

I completely understand what you were talking about mate, I was only talking about the r27er, one of my favorite missiles, I get what you were saying…Did I say in my post that you were wrong mate?

I do not get on the forum chats much, but wow, they always seem to digress into a childish argument dont they?

So the 21bis basically relies on the gun or food then?
And US mains want to up it’s BR.

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