Top Tier Russian Fighters are worse than nearly all of their competition

yeah that’s fine but ppl want to have fun while they can

Damn you’re telling me that a missile with IOG will find you after you flare and keep flying in a straight line? Crazy.

you need to point your flare dispensors at the missile and neg G into it here I think

So might as well fix what we have now ? That what the post asking for , not what in the future.Cause the situation for russian top tier ever since ARAAM got introduced, well , not that good.

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That’s an overstatement. It’s not as terrible when compared to some nations that heavily struggled before ARHs like Italy or France.

The thread is about russian top tier jet , that why I am talking about it. Especially considering USSR is a major nation. That doesn’t mean other nation don’t suffer but if you think they also need new stuff/buff or whatever, pretty sure there are thread out there for them.

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War thunder is not a contest of complaining about who has it worse. Russian top tier right now is objectively really bad

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If that is an actual argument, then the US should receive a hefty buff on the lastest bunch of Abrams, yet there’s a relevant amount of people in the forums that claim skill issue on most of americans, albeit acknowledging some confirmed issues.

I thought i’d get some claims of being disingenuous only to get intellectual honesty, but it seems that it’s just a facade to expand the current victim complex.

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Truthfully, I play my RU jets very rarely, and I’m very poorly taught on them irl.

I see a lot of people on here suggesting Mig29/Su27’s FM’s are underperforming, but assuming that doesn’t change, what do you all see as the realistic next addition to better level the playing field ?

The guy that had literal Italy_suffers as his nickname prior to the current (that is directly a taunt) claiming that nation suffering is not a contest, how honest and ironic is such claim.

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This post is about air, not ground

Well, it would probably be a new air to air missile like the ARH R27’s or the R-77-1, but either or those would have other counterparts added to the other nations

My name is bait meant to get people talking in game about something I think is funny and true. It has nothing to do with nations suffering. The Italy Suffers name was the same exact thing but with a different context

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Honestly, thrust-vectoring engines on newer platforms should significantly increase their performance, following some variants with slights improvements on some missiles.
The thing is, if it doesn’t meet their standard of unbeatable (same as the F-15 gang), they’ll begin this exact outrage in the future whenever the Su-30 arrives.

Thrust vectoring engines on a bad flight model isn’t really something I’m excited for ngl, I’d rather have good flight models made better with thrust vectoring, how they should be

You’re closer to get thrust vectoring than better FMs on current airframes.

The quicker you learn to deal with that reality, the better you’ll work around with the hand you were dealt whenever playing Soviet/Russian stuff. I’d bet you’re closer to get slight buffs on missiles than a workaround on FMs.

You’re entirely right, the likelihood is very small of flight model buffs. They’ll probably buff anything but that for some reason. But I made the post for the chance Gaijin sees it, can’t blame a man for trying.

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Why do you think this

It has been proven since the MiG-21 vs F-4E era that Gaijin is not in the precise will to model Russian airplanes ‘appropriately’ as claimed by many people, even with documentation proving some capabilities.

I’m not a Gaijin insider to know the exact reasons, but it followed something along the lines of keeping this artificial ‘balance’ of raw flight performance vs reasonable ordnance advantage at short quarters/BVR, yet Gaijin in their delayed and great wisdom, forgot that Seek and Destroy democratized BVR engagements to all of tech trees, and forgot to give Russian-related airframes some new interesting workaround (not a straightup advantage) to be at least interesting against BLUFOR stuff in relation to gameplay, not for being just op.

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That’s not me dawg