Top Tier Russian Fighters are worse than nearly all of their competition

No, as in, what would be the same BR in the same role

They won’t listen, I already tried to tell them that the chinese flankers are far better than the russian ones but i was ridiculed for offending the russian mains.

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Models we don’t have yet I imagine you’re talking about? The in game chinese flankers are far worse than the russian ones

Yes, because the only ones Gaijin have added to china so far have been glorified exports, there has been no chinese modifications made except the MAWs on the J-11A, besides that both are just Su-27Sk but one has R-77s

lol, there is no other way

Maybe eventually China will get stuff like the J-16, but that’s kinda far away.

It is rational to assume that gaijin wants to nickel and dime players with maximum grind. Why jump to Su30SM when they can release a few more 400k RP Su-27 variants?

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Fair point honestly.

I’d be fine with more Su-27 variants if they foldered them so that its optional and not 400k rp :/

Apparently this guy hasn’t played top tier Germany…

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better at dogfighting is a gross semplification, they had an advantage in some places and disadvantage in others, su 27 and mig 29 are not the super maneuverable upgrades yet.

yeah r77 arent the best, but they pull 50 gs(which isnt realistic but its fine for balance), theyre arguably the best at short range, which is alot of the game.

already by the next chinese flanker unless its a base model su 33 china is going to have better ones, even the “modern” su 35 isnt a match to chinese flankers

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Even then, the chinese will get Su-35s anyway, so not only will their be better, but they also get the cream of the crop from russia

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very much true, if youre a sukhoi fan china is the way to go as they are the ones actually making improvments on it.

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Well they’re terrible ingame at dog fighting when they should be very good, like they are irl. The Su-27 and Mig-29 are known for great flight performance.

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The range is too poor to challenge basically any other Fox 3 at range, and no, short range isn’t most of the game. And they’re not even the best at short range, that goes to the Mica EM.

i mean they arent particularly better than most of their contemporaries. they their pros and cons.

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Not quite

I mean, there is cons, but ingame, it is exclusively just cons, they have terrible flight performance and basically can’t out-dogfight any other Fourth Gen aircraft. Irl, they are known for their food flight performance.

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