Top Tier Russian Fighters are worse than nearly all of their competition

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You started your last reply with "

which I find to be an arrogant way to open a reply… especially since it’s just missing the point entirely in favor of mental gymnastics.

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Further examples of arrogant behavior from you include:

When it’s so easy to check profiles to see what a user plays, it is just arrogant to say this when it’s easy to find out I have the perspective needed to make the claims I am making.

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Also, ask gaijin to fix BR compression then instead of asking for USSR fighters to be intentionally and artificially gimped to help soothe aching USA/GER main complaints about the pantsir or other annoying russian problems

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lol Gripen also got nerf multiple times in the past fews months more times than MiG and SU

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I hate to break it to the but the Mig-29 nerf was way more substantial than all the Gripen nerfs combined, atleast in terms of how the jet flies compared to pre-nerf

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And? you really expect SU-27 to win dogfight against small light weight canards delta wing like Gripen everytimes? as it Gripen was designed that ways?

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definitely not, gripen still has a great FM even afterwards, mig29 was pretty gutted

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Literally this

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As it shadow of it former self
Yet F-16 leave untouched

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reverting all the 29 nerfs would create a super fun top tier experience for both sides where each side has distinct advantages in the dogfight again. F-16 vs MiG29 used to be a great fight

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Well, the F-16 was buffed when the Mig-29 nerf happened, no g limiter

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Wether or not that is substantial is, here or there, I just want the Mig-29’s fixed and the Su-27’s reworked

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There are 5 different ARH missiles excluding the Phoenix. I used all of them except the Derby and I can say that the R-77 is the worst. R-77 is definitely worse than the AMRAAM/Rb99, PL-12 and AAM-4 by a large margin, and I would say it’s even worse than the MICA at closer ranges where the R-77 should “perform well”.

Does 5 extra degrees really matter when you are using active radar missiles anyway?

You would have to cherry pick to find something good to say about these planes.

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Mig-29SMT is the F-16C equivalent.
Su-34 will be F-15C equivalent when added.

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the US didnt really overestimating the capabilities they just took the soviet propaganda serious

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Boy are Russian mains going to be disappointed with future added aircraft and the tec gap between American a Russian. If the more advanced r77 gets added, right along side it will be the C series of aim-120s and we will have this conversation again

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Well put.

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I mean, that’s why Gaijin should try and close the gap now, it’s already horrible, and it would be even worse in the future, Russia can compete, Gaijin just doesn’t let it.

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You do realize that 8/10 nations have USA planes and AMRAAMS right? Both Japan and Israel gets F-15’s and Gripens, Harriers etc also use AMRAAMS. It’s not the USA being good, it’s Russia and China being weaker than other nations.

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And yes, I understand that US jets will probably still be stronger, but like, Gaijin isn’t exactly helping by refusing to fix Russian flight models at top tier, or tweak the R-77 (some people say it has less drag irl)