Top Tier Russian Fighters are worse than nearly all of their competition

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again, since its hard for you to read, in a very specific and very NICHE way that has little impact. and ALSO again, BRs are SEPARATED ENTIRELY from air and ground RB so there is no discussion here. They are balanced separately. And AGAIN, even doing what I suggested would not put russian aircraft in a position of power against USA aircraft which if you werent aware is the most pampered air nation from 1.0 to 13.7…

You can check profiles and find out

Let’s pretend the Gripen, J-10A, F-15, or F-16 suffer against a buffed MIG-29 or Su-27 yeah?

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Since you are unable to discuss things without resorting to insulting behavior which is why you weren’t responded to before. You wont be now.

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You started your last reply with "

which I find to be an arrogant way to open a reply… especially since it’s just missing the point entirely in favor of mental gymnastics.

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Further examples of arrogant behavior from you include:

When it’s so easy to check profiles to see what a user plays, it is just arrogant to say this when it’s easy to find out I have the perspective needed to make the claims I am making.

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Also, ask gaijin to fix BR compression then instead of asking for USSR fighters to be intentionally and artificially gimped to help soothe aching USA/GER main complaints about the pantsir or other annoying russian problems

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lol Gripen also got nerf multiple times in the past fews months more times than MiG and SU

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I hate to break it to the but the Mig-29 nerf was way more substantial than all the Gripen nerfs combined, atleast in terms of how the jet flies compared to pre-nerf

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And? you really expect SU-27 to win dogfight against small light weight canards delta wing like Gripen everytimes? as it Gripen was designed that ways?

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definitely not, gripen still has a great FM even afterwards, mig29 was pretty gutted

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Literally this

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As it shadow of it former self
Yet F-16 leave untouched

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reverting all the 29 nerfs would create a super fun top tier experience for both sides where each side has distinct advantages in the dogfight again. F-16 vs MiG29 used to be a great fight

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Well, the F-16 was buffed when the Mig-29 nerf happened, no g limiter

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Wether or not that is substantial is, here or there, I just want the Mig-29’s fixed and the Su-27’s reworked

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There are 5 different ARH missiles excluding the Phoenix. I used all of them except the Derby and I can say that the R-77 is the worst. R-77 is definitely worse than the AMRAAM/Rb99, PL-12 and AAM-4 by a large margin, and I would say it’s even worse than the MICA at closer ranges where the R-77 should “perform well”.

Does 5 extra degrees really matter when you are using active radar missiles anyway?

You would have to cherry pick to find something good to say about these planes.

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Mig-29SMT is the F-16C equivalent.
Su-34 will be F-15C equivalent when added.

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the US didnt really overestimating the capabilities they just took the soviet propaganda serious

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Boy are Russian mains going to be disappointed with future added aircraft and the tec gap between American a Russian. If the more advanced r77 gets added, right along side it will be the C series of aim-120s and we will have this conversation again

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Well put.

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I mean, that’s why Gaijin should try and close the gap now, it’s already horrible, and it would be even worse in the future, Russia can compete, Gaijin just doesn’t let it.

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