The Leclerc is in dire need of a buff

[Mulatu_Astatke]

Leclercs saw many improvements over their lifetime, including to armour. The Series 1 armour (which was deemed insufficient for French service) was found to be comparable to the Challenger 2 (~500 KE). Then there were 2 tonnes of armour added for the S2, then about another tonne for the SXXI. The latter 2 are missing a decent amount of composite. Not to mention the crew compartment should be invulnerable to 30mm autocannon.

The mobility is also egregiously under-performing. On top of that, thermals should be better for the S2 and SXXI. There is also SHARD to be given.

And if they ever modelled FCS, the Leclerc would be far ahead of almost everything.

So yeah, the Leclerc IRL is fine. How it’s modelled in-game… not so much.

[cervotoc123]

@Panther2995

More likely i was reffering that every tank needs to do that

Not every. In strv 103 and oscillating turrets the cannon breech stays at the same place relative to the autoloader.

[Panther2995]

Yea and most of them arent part of modern armies anymore.

Considering we were debating about top Tier Tanks i dont see the point why should’ve i mention about those Tanks.

[cervotoc123]

Because it seamed to me like you were talking about all vehicles in general.

@Panther2995

Remember same goes for autoloaders as well.

Gaijin models every loading system with optimal conditions, this includes stationary position.

Last but not least Fire Rate is a soft balancing method.

@Panther2995

Never mentioned about Leclerc in case you didnt noticed, you also forgetting barrel must be aligned with loading mechanism which actually reduces the fire rate for almost every tank on move.

@Panther2995

More likely i was reffering that every tank needs to do that and therefore if this process get model in this game some Tanks will get hurt from it.

Besides not every autoloader in the game fires as fast as it can IRL just take type 10 as an example. And in case of Leclerc some sources about its reload also mention that 10-12 rmp is “effective” or “sustained” reload rate so not in optimal conditions. Some even claim the theoretical to be up to 15 rpm.

[Panther2995]

@cervotoc123

Because it seamed to me like you were talking about all vehicles in general.

90 percent of the time i refer top Tier vehicles due to not having interest to lower Tier stuff, sorry if it wasnt clear enough.

@cervotoc123

Besides not every autoloader in the game fires as fast as it can IRL just take type 10 as an example. And in case of Leclerc some sources about its reload also mention that 10-12 rmp is “effective” or “sustained” reload rate so not in optimal conditions. Some even claim the theoretical to be up to 15 rpm.

Thats why fire rate is known and soft balancing material, Gaijin use this as an balancing factor.

[ARK_BOI]

Well i guess wait for BeNeLux ground force for France to get some Leopard 2 seem Leclerc are not going anywhere

[dotSHINI]

In before france gets a 2a6am3, which is better modelled then the 2a7v

[ARK_BOI]

I also wish for 2A7 armor get fix well i know it good enough but still pissed me off every i see it

[RemoveCASfromGRB]

I would like to see a live reaction to the avergae German player if the AM3 is better modeled then 2A7V.

[dotSHINI]

the joke is, its highyl questionable if france should get them
netherlands dont own any AM3s, they are all german with german license plates and everything owned just dutch use them as part of the fused forces

[We Are All One]

Thunder Show: GAUSS GUN

1:53 is a perfect example of how shitty the Lecler’s armor is.

[Hyrikul]

So sad to read things like that and to see the state of this tank in WT.

[UNN_Daedalos]

unnecessary addition that might even delay leclerc fixes.

I’m not even sure french main like the BeNeLux subtree addition, at least i don’t.

Hope the leak list is fake on that part

[Michael-IR]

inb4 the best Leclerc in game will be the hybrid with 2A7V hull

[ARK_BOI]

Not far from it BeNeLux are already at France air tree won’t be long for ground now
(They’ll get 2A6 for sure)

[LiL_TaX_EvAsIoN]

arietes too need a buff,

[dotSHINI]

nbody seems happy realy about their subtrees lo

France hates the dutch part
Italy hates hungary
UK hates SA and india.

In the mean time germany i asking for a sub tree to fix its hole lol

[ARK_BOI]

Indeed but at least Italian now have 2A7HU to play around with and since real life Italian army choose Leopard 2A8 for their new MBT they will get that (Leopard 2 for everyone!!)

[dotSHINI]

@ARK_BOI

Leopard 2A8 for their new MBT

old news that one fell into the waters

Italy signed contracts with rheinmetall and KF51 development now

[LiL_TaX_EvAsIoN]

Nah man I’m stubborn and calling anyone playing Hungarian vehicles traitors