The ItO 90M being the new airfield AA was a terrible idea

Fast food ARB lmao

Go back to sleep Wisla

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It’s funny how I oppose airfield camping, and support needing to use at least a tiny amount of skill to strafe people, and people get mad.

Airfield campers make it way too easy to spot them.

twisting the meaning of a word to win an argument gg classic wisla move

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then as I said play the damn objective and win the game the other way you really lack reading skills if you can’t see the other option the game allows you to do and win with more xp then you get for the guy running circles around the AF …

in GRB people hate being spawn camped…ARB players at 13.7 - 14.3…WWWWAAAAA why can’t we spawn camp the last guy in a 5 v 1 at point black range

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I will agree that for lower BRs sure you could make them Rolands…for things rocking fox 3s…honestly it should be stronger then the iTO 90M. They start shooting at about 9km…that’s nothing when we are talking fox 3s!

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As much as I often disagree with you on russian bias posts etc i fully agree with you on that one

Yes, it was meh, but claiming [it was impossible to die] is an insane level of wild exaggeration.

I faced them while some subsonic jets in the earliest BR radius, and it was quite hard to fight against them.
(Maybe Meteor, Swift or F2H?)

Transonic is quite useful to fight against AF Rolands.
If your plane is not capable of it, skill barr goes high and does not become [impossible to die]

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would it be spawncamping if the tank retreated back into his spawn because he couldnt kill anyone

you dont spawn on the airfield in ARB anyway and if you did, you spawn at the same time as the enemy team, not halfway into the match

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Roland’s should remain the primary airfield AA until 13.0 or so IMO. They are too powerful to be facing flareless aircraft, and even against 3rd gens they would be too much for ARB.

They are fine for 13.0 and above.

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at 13.0 or 12.7 would put it in range of the ITOs actual BR which seems reasonable to me

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My comment is not on if it is or is not…just that NO ONE likes it happening to them! But people sure seem to like to be able to do it to others -_-

and before you ASK…yes I have spawn camped! Do I want it mitigated YES! If you lock someone in their spawn leave them…but at the very least give them some sort of chance to claw back instead of a Beach Head Rush vs MG42s! Your side has already WON!

if my side has already won then the enemy should either give us the kill or actually land and leave the match

So they arent great right? Explain to me what can 9.7 planes do against a missile that even the BEST flight model in game cannot evade them:

Clueless-low skill players make it way too easy to spot them i guess

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do you know what airfield camping even means in the context of war thunder air realistic

It seems like you are the one who can’t read, because you just repeated yourself and didn’t address anything I wrote.

How do you get to top BR without learning how to defeat Roland 3 missiles?
I see where the opinions come from now.

Corkscrew maneuvers are what I learned with R-27Rs and AIM-7Fs.
I translated that skill to Roland 3s and TOR-M1s.

That was the WORST evasion I have ever see!!! XD Bro pppffff that aside yes for lower BR change it to Rolands.

maybe dont fly like a maniac in plain sight ? fly low ??? you guys lack common sense jezus

I just went to record something fast