Nothing you’re saying here has anything to do with what we’re talking about… Sorry, but you’re merely trying to drag it all off-topic as has been mentioned in the prior post.
My bot farm find was merely indicative of the issue I was highlighting, and has been forwarded appropriately, and will be escalated.
Your concern is almost like you think you’ll be affected, and which, while that could be a valid concern, stopping us even looking at it or drawing attention to it, is excusing the nefarious actions.
Maybe you are scared, but there’s no reason to be because you wouldn’t be affected if you play the game normally… These guys aren’t playing normally. Ignoring it allows for peopel to be passive, and that should honestly not be the case.
You’re playing against AI alone, with no fear of being ‘caught’ by a player… That shouldn’t be the way, otherwise we should just make a PvE-EC mode that gives you appropriate passive-scale rewards, because it’s not as if you’re actually playing the game compared to just flying against AI…
And that could be the simple way of removing the issue. A new mode, PvE, like assault. Now I bet you’ll have issue with that, but that’s not my problem.
You’re trying to gatekeep anyone looking at it out of fear of something that you admit didn’t work 2 years ago… Sorry, but there’s an issue to fix, and by proxy you admit it’s a problem.
You’re doing nothing but gatekeeping attention on a serious issue that makes everyones efforts, all but worthless because you can tolerate a group who are gaming the system.
That’s just your opinion… Many can’t handle my candor, but that doesn’t make what I say wrong, or insulting.
People want to make out that it is, but that’s just them trying desperately to try get someone to stop saying things they don’t like. Many have tried, and many have failed.
What I said before and what I think others are saying that have disagreed with you, is that yes there are issues with bot-farmers and abusers who try to force pve lobbies. No-one is disagreeing on that.
But based on what you write it seems to me (and apparently others) that players that play in a PVE manner (attacking bases/ground units/ai/airfields) are, in your opinion, also at fault.
And that’s what me and others are disagreeing on with you.
Help me clarify: Is that your opinion or have we simply been misunderstanding each other?
I got statchecked by the person I responded to, who’s saying that I’m just trying to cause trouble…
Definitely gatekeeping.
The issue is ignoring the issue to protect your mode, allows those who are doing this, to do it more. The fact that I merely checked the rooms and found a bot farm operating, AND everyone else was sitting on the non-bot side, shows the issue is known, and is understood.
Everything that has been brought in has been avoiding the point that has been raised the entire time, so it’s not wrong, it’s being blatantly ignored, and statements are being made, about my stance and ‘want’ that were never actually made.
I refuse to address thier nonsense because they have been that way from the start… Ignoring the point that’s been made, for the sake of making out that it’s about other shit.
No offence, but if you are not a regular player of air sim, on what basis do you base your arguments? Anecdotal experiences of other players? Because, in my perspective, the issues you have raised are not as serious as you think. As @Schindibee has pointed out, botting in other modes is significantly more common and prevalent.
Furthermore, playing exclusively in PvE by flying around and dropping bombs on bases is not always botting. Sometimes I am just so exhausted that I take off in a jet, fly in the general direction of a base, watch some YouTube, and then drop the bombs, rinse, and repeat. To be honest, most of the time I do not want to participate in active PvP by flying around hunting for targets, as it is really time-consuming.
In addition, some of my friends have told me, “I have no idea how to play in air sim except for bombing or rocketing bases.” So, once again, this is not an exploit as you may believe. To summarize, even if you believe any PvE behaviours violate the EULA or ToS, they have been thoroughly defined by a senior game master. And if a senior game master believes some “acts” are not against the rules, then they are not, period.
After all, you don’t mind the situation and admit that you know it’s happening on the SA servers…
That’s a really slack approach… The fact that after that statement was made, for me to go to the SA servers and find a bot farm, with people joined on the other side, means it’s known about and accepted.
It’s a bad stance for staff to even take to excuse and ignore that sort of thing going on.
That, is why I think I have a right to raise the concern.
Because if they can sit idly making all of which I have done competitively, then the esports ‘standard’ for this game is lost if they can merely sit back in a non-threatened situation, and get all that the rest of us got, under pressure.
As I said, is it fine to ask for a match to be PvE on the main servers, and exploit the cap to make mega score? I don’t think so.
And to this…
No other mode allows manual joining of rooms like Sim does, making it a VERY different situation to the ‘botters’ who are merely idling, compared to others using these rooms to face against thier own bots.
I do not want to be rude here, but, I am looking at your in-game stats card right now, and it appears to me that you have never even played a single match of top-tier air sim, which is the BR region where this discussion about PvE lobbies is most prevalent, and even then, generally only during events and in SA servers.
You should check the bot farm I found last night… 2 bots, on the enemy team, the ‘owner’ of the bots on the other with another 5 players… The 2 bots were merely circling.
I know what I’m looking at, and I think it’s about time some heads rolled for ignoring it happening because it’s damn obvious…
I just looked at your replay history. You did not participate in any air sim matches yesterday, as you claimed in your earlier message. Unless you want to tell me that you have been speculating that match using a different account, in which case I will have to remind you that per rule 3.4, the user may not register multiple accounts.
So, how did you speculate on an air sim match in which you did not take part and which does not exist in your replay history?
So you are telling me you are “policing” the server replay? In a game mode that you does not even play in?
Honestly, this scarcely adds credibility to the arguments. One game with some people flying around in circles does not imply that they are botting, and it has nothing to do with this issue being as serious as you suggest. But, in any case, this topic has been well discussed, and any concerns should have already been addressed. I will not make any further comments.