Team selection based on aircraft played

Game Discussion Simulator Battle
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Since the arrival and multiplication of identical planes in many trees of the game in top tiers, the simulator mode does not make much sense anymore because both teams have the same planes.

That’s why I propose this system, tell me what you think.

So my suggestion is to join one of the two teams depending on the plane(s) you want to play regardless of the nation.
For example, in a situation where you want to play the Hungarian Mig-29, you would join the team composed of Soviet aircraft while if you want to play the Italian F-16A-ADF you would join the team composed of American aircraft.

Pro :

  • The two teams are no longer composed of the same aircraft.
  • Reduced the number of team kills (I stopped counting the number of F-16s shot down by mistake because they were present in both teams)

Con :

  • Some countries end up with incomplete lineups in sim (for example Italy which only has a few Soviet planes or Sweden which only has one Mig-21)
  • Reduced the number of players playing the red team, with NATO planes being the most played planes

This would therefore give us :

Blue Team

Full USA tech tree
Full JPN tech tree
Full ISR tech tree
GBR : All planes except Grippen and Mig-21 Bison
GER : American planes + Tornado and Alpha Jet
CHN : American planes
ITA : All exept Hungarians plane
FRA : American planes + French planes

Red teamp

Full URSS tech tree
CHN : All exept americans planes
GER : East germany planes
GBR : Mig-21 Bison
ITA : Hungarian tech tree exept the Grippen

Sweden stands out with this system (not being a member of NATO or an ally of the USSR). However, it is an ally of many NATO countries, so the logical choice would be to add it to the blue team with its planes present in the other tech trees (South African and Hungarian Grippen).

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I voted yes … but I’m not sure if this exact system is the good one.

I don’t know how the exact details should be, but something for having each plane only in one team would be awesome !!!

We can make it also random, F-16 sometimes only available for team B, so it would bring some balance.

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I don’t know either but I’m just tired of chasing allies thinking they’re enemies.

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I agree with this, i would also make preset where Franch or Swedish unique planes are part of red team so matches can be played if blue is overstacked.

This should also to be thing in ground mode to reduce overstacking of blue.

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Yes, the French and the Swedes are the only two nations to have real original concepts and not just imported planes. They can definitely be put on the red team if needed.

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Sad mirage noises

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Sadly the French tree got a few American planes that we can’t erase (sadly).

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I’m fine the F-8E(FN) and most of the WW2 stuff (even if some connections are dubious) but France didn’t have any need for Benelux planes

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I completely agree on this point. The Benelux don’t bring anything new to the French tree and we can even say to the game

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It also means if we ask for things like the Mirage III NG or F-8P they’ll tell us we already got Benelux and don’t need them :(

We need more indigenous prototypes

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Personally I really want the Balzac, the Mirage F2 and the Mirage G8

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Biggggg F2 lol

Maybe we could sneak a Mirage IV in there too, I’m just personally really happy we have the Mirage 4000

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The mirage IV would be great. And I m also happy to have the 4000

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Sweden formally joined NATO in March.

https://www.nato.int/cps/en/natohq/news_223446.htm

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I support this because it would be a final nail in the top tier coffin as far as team balance goes.

Just looking at the available top tier games right now across CIS, EU, NA servers and here are the rough player counts.

23 USSR + CHINA + GER
43 USA
17 JAP/SWEDEN/ITALY
6 FRANCE

So if you want to eliminate the potential of duplicate planes at top tier…you end up pairing up basically everyone vs USSR + CHINA…with maybe France thrown in for reasons.

Across all of the lobbies…there are 66 NATO players…and 23 Eastern block players. That count will go down in the future as Germany is going to be pure NATO tree going forward.

So yes this is a fantastic idea and I support it. All those red side players are just going to have to learn how to play better or quit the game.

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I vote 0 cause this is a discussion thread not a suggestion.

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I know but it is quit recent and the planes we have in game are from an time when Sweden wasn’t a member

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This difference is problematic and is probably the main reason why my idea couldn’t work. I hope one day there will be more eastern block player.

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I was thinking of making a suggestion like this lol

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