You can always talk to @Schindibee who is already in this topic and is answering to You ;)
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He was the first contact lol, generic answer. Not bothering again. Whatever. Gaijin says contact game masters about such things, game masters answer they can’t do anything or help. I don’t care anymore.
It’s true we can’t do anything about those TK bans, correct ,and can provide no additional info on them.
As to chat bans however, here we can talk and I can provide chatlogs (privately, not here publicly of course…).
Also, when do you say you contacted me? Can’t find any message from you…
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My bad, I have contacted other 4. What is the reason that you cannot disclose details about TK bans? I’m 100% sure if my teamkills would be manually reviewed, 90% of them would be irrelevant anyway. I know reviewing 25k players is mission impossible, but then for future I don’t want to get massive TK numbers on me just because system didn’t work properly.
Then follow the rules…
3. DAMAGE TO TEAMMATES, “FRIENDLY FIRE”
3.1. These War Thunder specific rules expressly prohibit causing damage to teammates or so-called “friendly fire” in a Game, including, without limitation, the following actions: inflicting damage to teammates’ vehicles or any of their parts, destroying teammates’ vehicles or any of its parts, disorienting teammates. Please note that damaging teammates is forbidden even if the damaging functionality is technically allowed in a Game.
3.2. The sanctions for violating the above-mentioned rule are automatically imposed by the in-game system that analyzes the Player’s in-game behavior. In exceptional cases, the Administration may manually evaluate the alleged violation and set the corresponding sanction.
3.3. The rule in paragraph 3.1 above also applies to certain Game events (official streams, championships, etc.) officially announced and sanctioned by the Administration. In some cases, during such Game events, the in-game punishment system mentioned above may be disabled, and the participants will not be punished for minor or insignificant violations. However, the Administration may always impose the Game Access Restriction for a period from 3 to 7 days on a Player who causes damage or destroys a teammate during such Game events.
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Not need to punish the perpetrator with 8000-15000 SL/team kill and victim got low compensation.
Accidents happends… and when the perpetrator say: ‘I’m sorry!’ ( Example my tank bombed accidentally by friendly aircraft. Happends and it’s unintentionally )
…in this case, there should be no punishment just transfer the victims destroyed tank’s repair cost to perpetrator… and transfer perpetrator’s 10% silver lion and 10% XP income to victim to compensation.
Thats will be fair.
But the better question :
What should we do with teammates who rush into a friendly arty strike or bomb and get killed… in this case i got punishment, but the ‘teamkill’ come from my less smart mate’s side…
In other hand from my point of view also a teamkill when your teammate:
use my tank as a live shield and block my movement,
OR
push my tank into enemy fire and just push and block my movement while i’m died.
OR
block my when you try to fallback, while i’m under fire
OR
push my tank when i take a shot which missed and that get a chance to enemy to kill my armor.
IMHO i do think that TK-ing someone that brought a prop to top tier is justified
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Stealing that picture from @ULQ_LOVER :)
The rules say “not intentionally” and “on purpose”.
So when I lock onto an enemy jet and my AIM-9L flies past it and hits a friendly, then that was neither intentionally nor on purpose.
So far so good, that would also cover the low level players who buy a Top Tier premium and start learning through that…
What I’m concerned about is, that @Stona_WT stated: that a TK is a TK and therefore that even accidental TKs count towards a banable offense.
So what is it now Gaijin?
Your rules say that a friendly fire accident has to be on purpose yet your CM says all TK count and people affected by the ban have no means to defend themselves.
If you can’t pinpoint specific incidents for the banned people then that ban wave is nothing but arbitrary.
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I think you may have replied to the wrong person maybe?
I also do not agree with TK at all. I do not mind it being a feature as long as the trolls sit behind another wave like the one we just had.
AHH, sorry, yeah i guess i replied to the wrong person. But yeah, I still do stand by what I said. But I currently still only TK people who attack me first.
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Best to break that habit. Report and move on.
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Will never report anyone for Teamkilling, but will bring one tank in line up and just leave game after one death until they decicde to ban people for doing that.
From the Fair play thread:
It is a very tricky problem it seems to separate the unintentional from the intentional teamkills.
By tricky I mean that it involves spending time, money and resources to investigate and ascertain with context the incidents, something that Gaijin will not or cannot do due to budgetary constraints or sheer uninterest.
Team killing is not a good thing as I have mentioned previously and all the other griefing that goes on, passive play is a bit subjective, overwatching an area to protect and provide cover may be construed to be passive, maybe the games idea is we all charge forward like mindless lemmings to ensure short games and short queue times. Gaijin’s god and the hill it has chosen to die on is queue times.
It almost seems making a mistake is not allowed, anyone who has never made a mistake has never actually done anything.
Maybe that is the answer to not do anything, maybe for a week, two weeks or a month, until the ambiguity over the subject has been resolved.
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Whilst i see your point - the dose makes the poison.
My reply to the same topic from another thread:
I see what they are saying but is there a time aspect to this, how long do the incidents stay on the players record ? I have not been following this very closely but is there any official statements or figures on this ?
I have had infractions on my driving license that expire over time, get too many in a short time then points make prizes, or a more serious incident gets more points.
I can hear any reply from Gaijin about if people know they will game the system and keep points just below the threshold and when they expire carry on as normal.
All I want is transparency and a framework, will we all eventually be banned as over the years we accumulate these infractions ?
Seems the best way to avoid this especially if you have spent money is not to partake, then you will not suffer any of the punishments. As I have previously posted why now and why so heavy handed, Gaijin could not be bothered a few months ago, now all of a sudden it is a major problem ruining the game ?
Once again inconsistency and no structured planning or ideas, just lurching from one knee jerk reaction to the next, do they have any planning meetings and quality targets ?
I dont think the GM’s know since it is an automated system, but they have confirmed they fall off after time like they never existed (which with the amount of TK’s I have had over the last decade seems true otherwise I would have been thrown a while ago)
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Seems they turned off teamkilling from ARB match
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Yeah?
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I just tried against bots in custom battles but, my guns doesn’t give any damages now.
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