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                    October 24, 2025, 12:40pm
                   
                   
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              T-80UE-1 has not only better optic sights, better round + better spalling, better thermals, AND in most cases better armor
Type 90? Unreliable armor, optics that make you want to suffer, mid round for the BR, thermals that are lower quality than a 144p video on youtube.
             
            
               
               
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I’m not sure about the Type 90… but bad news for the Type 10… 
             
            
               
               
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                    October 24, 2025, 12:42pm
                   
                   
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thats not what it says
specifically mentions: “MZ autoloader upgraded to use 740 mm long APFSDS”
also the t80ue1 was straight up better than the U and UK variants before, now its actually different br wise
             
            
               
               
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Id love to hear where did you find out T-72B3 is superior when it has worse HP/T, reverse speed, horizontal turret rotation speed, reload speed, and higher top speed.
T-72B3 has only better shell, and vertical gun laying speed. Maybe relikt bags on sides.
Type 90/Fuji is defined by its 4 sec reload. Beyond that, its not 12.0 material.
             
            
               
               
               
            
            
                 
                 
              
           
          
            
            
              yeah i was also wondering it since the leopard 2PL got DM53 with the decompression and clickbait had the M829A2 before that aswell even
             
            
               
               
               
            
            
                 
                 
              
           
          
            
              
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                    October 24, 2025,  1:07pm
                   
                   
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3BM46 vs Type 90 at 500m
T-80UE-1 is good at 12.0, Type 90’s dont need to move
             
            
               
               
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 かがり:
 
T-80UE-1 is good at 12.0
 
 
true but i still think it should get its 3BM60 round
             
            
               
               
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Would be good for 12.0 only if it gets 3BM60
             
            
               
               
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              you get gen 2 thermals which is a pretty massive upgrade that makes it worth 0.3 br increase
             
            
               
               
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                    October 24, 2025,  3:53pm
                   
                   
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              better armor in most cases, better round and gen2 thermals
  
  
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3BM46 vs Type 90 at 500m 
T-80UE-1 is good at 12.0, Type 90’s dont need to move
   
 
refer to this post above
             
            
               
               
               
            
            
                 
                 
              
           
          
            
            
              yeah i agree with you on this Type 90 doesnt need to be any higher unlike what OP suggested
             
            
               
               
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                    October 24, 2025,  3:55pm
                   
                   
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              Agreed, it’s rediculous to say because it has a 4s reload = it needs to go up. Despite it having essencially more negatives than positives
             
            
               
               
               
            
            
                 
                 
              
           
          
            
            
              Having better thermals and not being stuck with 8.0 worthy gun traverse speed is a big bonus.
             
            
               
               
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                    October 24, 2025,  3:57pm
                   
                   
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              we are talking about the T-80U-E1 and Type 90 here 
not a 8.0
also we have to consider player skill in this, (given most USSR players are not that smart due to it being part of the big 3 and japan isnt)
             
            
               
               
               
            
            
                 
                 
              
           
          
            
              
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                    October 24, 2025,  3:59pm
                   
                   
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              3BM46 doing a great job already… Why do you need an even better round? that’ll just bump its BR up further lmao
             
            
               
               
               
            
            
                 
                 
              
           
          
            
            
              And I wonder why we don’t have 3BM59 in the game
             
            
               
               
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              I was just telling you that E1 isn’t the same as UK, as it’s pretty much a direct upgrade.
             
            
               
               
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                    October 24, 2025,  4:02pm
                   
                   
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              A fair, i dont play russia enough to know xD