Su-39 Current BR is unbearable ( 11.7 )

It used to be 11.3 in air too incase you didn’t know.

Which is not part of the august changes. Therefore not recent. Additionally, the main BR that people play, air realistic, is still 11.3

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Did you even read his post?

Or did you just here to stalk me? What is with you guys and stalking me? It’s honestly really creepy.

You don’t seem to read at all and have this delusion that the world is out to get you. You seems to conevniently and consistently avoid how I mentioned that only GRB BR was changed.

Then you kept inserting your sim experience which had 0 relevance.

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Yes, having experience in the relevant vehicle is also important, but YOU are using THAT for nothing but a magical getaway car. To shut the opponent’s mouth when you cannot dismiss counterarguments.

You failed to prove a solid counterargument against my take.

Bad faith comment? how? You are the one who claimed Su-39 could be 12.0BR with R-77.
Then did you admitted that you posted that in bad faith here?

No? You failed to counterargue my take and you decided to post my stat that I didn’t play Su-39.
It is your problem that you cannot counterargue something properly and can do nothing but project and shove another word into someone’s mouth.

Su-39 being dead already =/= Su-39 need to be nailed to the coffin.
Being dead doesn’t mean it deserves to be worse.

According to precedent SHAR FA.2, if we add an R-77 on Su-39, IDK, it would be a worse 13.0BR jet in Air RB, and Gaijin wouldn’t give a damn about Su-39’s new stat since Gaijin believes ‘Modern ARH Missiles = instant 13.0+ BR’

Well, it could being 12.0BR since both SHAR FA.2 and AV-8B+ are 12.0BR in ‘Ground realistic’
Still, it seems it isn’t worthwhile when we consider that the Su-30MK2 AMV is 12.3 BR in GRB.

If you really believe that you don’t shut down topics and you enjoy a good debate
then you must’ve lived by a different definition of ‘good debate’ and ‘shut topics down’.

It is your problem that someone literally suggests something which looks bad to soviet; then you rush up furiously and stab them savagely. Untill topic has passed beyond the point of no return via derailment, or opponents are just leaving the discussion due to tiredness.

I reckon I didn’t argue against you in the Fox or MiG-25 topic. Do you have any direct proof that I tried to shut it down?

Last time I argued with you, it was on the Tu-4 topic.

The second they turn away aim9m turns into potato because ircm (ivan redirects capitalist missiles ig) is good enough to jam aim9m somehow. Good thing they are unaware enough to turn back to sim bots and get killed because they cant just dump all munitions on bots at once.

There is literally no bad R-77 slinging fighter
And the meta is medium-short range
Which R-77 is very good in
So guess what?
There is zero reason for it to be a bad missile

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Last quote can only mean grb because iris t is grb only thing currently. And due to how badly air is compressed there you are indeed going to face fox 3 at 11.7 (f14a) and uptiers to 12.0 (f14b/d, amraam harrier), 12.3 (su30mk2/mkk), 12.7 (f15e/mcip/mica m2k).

Ok so undertier it where the SPAA can’t do anything? 11.3 is below even the ADATS

why

Only differences on tech tree version is , this one got better ARM missiles, and radar pod.
But since it is same otherwise, it could get rid of those KH31’s and drop it to same as tech tree version.

what?
I’m just reading ts now
This is just cope lmfao

Gaijin almost never removes munitions from vehicles
and since the Su-39 is a very good CAS aircraft
There is zero reason for gaijin to do this

Situational, like A10’s.

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It’s significantly less situational than the A-10
A-10 is just slow and has no real advantage over the 10.7 one in terms of CAS weaponry

Su-39 has IRCM, Kh-29, built-in ESM, vikhr, multiple laser guided munitions and ARMs while also being pretty quick for a subsonic
It’s a really good CAS aircraft

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lots of additional armament, most notably the wideband kh-25MPU.

I know what it got.
Laser missiles are just pain time to time, since you really need paint target all the time.
Vikhrs got awfully small launch window.
IRCM helps quite none on ground games.
It does not have KH29T’s while using ARM ( if you dont use 25’s) etc. etc.
But least it got good optics on laser weapons, just missing thermals.

completely agreed, its very good plane, but not at its current sluggish BR, every time i play 11.7 i hope everytime and am not uptiered to 12.7, which happens like 90 percent of the time.

They are very good but not at top tier afer the uptier ( 12.7 ) where all IRIST still intercept your missiles they have big radar cross section, In its original BR it was much better and suitable since there was no FnF IRIST neither Fighers with FnF air to air missiles at this BR ranges.

Yup personally i would choose the kh-29TE upgraded version since its more reliable than the ARM and does not loose lock when the target closes the radar and changes location.

Yup Khod thermal pod, including the Kinzal MMw radar Pod.

Just showing deltaV does not indicate r77 out ranges aim7f/m

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Wow thats a coincidence because thats what the missile is

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