Su-39 After the BR change is now 11.7 which is unbearable, The aircraft gets constant up tiers to 12.7 where it constantly meet IRIST, and Jets with ARH missiles, And excuse my language but this aircraft cant do sht about it, I got it that it has 2x vihkr pods, and 2x Kh-29TE, and Kh-25MPU anti radiation but all of this will absolutely do nothing if you getting killed before arriving to the battlefield, And if you try to Use the Kh-25MPU the IRIST will simply Counter it easily, ALSO to mention this aircraft does NOT have Radar guided air to air missiles ( it got them in real life but not in-game ).
Before when it was at 11.3 BR it was much more understandable, in up tiers you wont meet the IRIST since they are 12.7 BR, and you will get uptiered to 12.3 which will save you from them, And you wont meet some planes with ARH missiles, which really gave you more chance than now.
Gaijin either you get it back to its 11.3 BR or you provide it with its Electronic countermessure capability.
ok main subject, you think a high subsonic attacker with 3600 km/h anti radiation missiles, 10 1800 km/h saclos missiles, thrust vectoring air to air missiles should be put at 11.3?
You did not read what i said before did you? it gets intercepted 100% change every time by the IRIST.
you cant simply Use them in open area in the battlefield you will get instantly shot down, Have you even played this jet?
A thrust vectoring capability wont do ( excuse my language ) sht if the enemy has alot of flare or low thermal signature OR just maneuvered hard on the turn during dogfight out of gimbal limit.
then you need to go in close range and gun them. you shouldn’t stay up high with a subsonic attacker
fair, but still best in class
that is true for all air to air missiles, still best maneuverability out of any missile near that BR
that is up to gaijin, but it also doesn’t get kh-31s
while I don’t agree it should go to 11.3, I do think compression is a real problem there. the difference between 11.3 and 11.7 is constant downtiers vs uptiers due to a lot of people grouping at 12.7
A strike fighter with full CAS loadout against a dedicated air to air figher? Hmm sure.
Best in its class at 11.3
Yes, Taking onto account the variables of the battlefield from the things i mentioned or i did not mention from the enemy and your side in the plane it will make a huge difference in split second decision making which is not really the case for this plane since its a dedicated Strike aircraft and NOT an aerial\Air to air Figher like the ones it constantly meet in an uptier.
talking about IRIS-T and other long range SPAA, you don’t have to worry about pantsirs like everyone else
tell me what is better than a vikhr at any BR? and when I said class, I meant class, not in general. Vikhrs are the best saclos guided AGM by a long shot
IRIST have a 90% destruction ratio for Su-39 every single match and you will only survive if you kill them before they Place their missile launchers. which is highly impractical and dangerous.
a Su-25T at 11.3 is with Vihkr.
Su-39 DO have Kh-31, have u ever looked it up in-game? or u just speak from assumptions?
your personal destruction ratio, maybe. you really should try to stay out of radar detection, it’s difficult, but that’s intentional… you aren’t supposed to be able to just escape every missile that gets launched at you
Su-39 falls under the same situation as any other striker in the current air realistic battles environment that whoever has better air combat capabilities is in advantage. Air realistic battles long gone gave place to bomb ground targets and have meaningful progress towards a victory. Su-39 is in no way a bad plane, is just that air combat is not one of its best features; it could have access to medium to long range air-to-air missiles but that’s a developer choice.
I’d suggest setting up controls and play this plane in air simulator battles where your ground ordnances will have much better use, while at the same time giving you some respectable rewards for just targetting ground targets and enemy strategic assets like camps, bases and vessels and eventually the airfield if you’re skilled to get in, attack and leave and land safely. It’s a good plane in a terrible environment.
