But I just don’t get where, when I shared my experience on average, I ever said such a thing?
And brushing it off genuinely is not cool.
The only thing I’ve ever said is it should get R-27s or R-77s, or both.
its implied considering how this thread has gone and that you are whining about the frogfoot a fair bit here.
Hope it goes up considerably with those added, its already pretty toxic from its IRCM and outperforms light fighters like the hawk 200 (and harrier 2 to a degree) so giving them some breathing room from it will be a good change
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I’m not gonna like that’s a bit of a skill issue. It’s pretty easy if they turn to use the ircm to just get up behind them and laze them.
Not to mention, previously you said the Aim-9m struggles against it but lol, I’ve never had a problem…
Additionally, R-27Rs wouldn’t change a thing. R-27ERs may improve its performance on not so experienced pilots.
In which case, if it preforms very well, bump it to 12.0.
You must remember it cannot go above 628 mph, and yes the ER goes Mach 5.8 but the low speed won’t help it.
Again you have to drop the Vikhir pod for it, so you lose 14x AGMs to gain 2 better AAMs.
Pretty even trade tbh.
R-77s really, you have to be trying to die to them, because you can chaff, multipath, etc.
They tend to miss under 50m, and don’t have a longer burn time like the Aim-120As do.
Again another slower launch from an R-77 would simply mean that it is a better R-73, but it gives a radar ping + you have to use the radar, without an hmd which limits it.
So it’s simply in some of your heads, that your burning hatred for Russia keeps vehicles in subpar states.
And before you say “well x vehicles is 13.0” have you ever considered maybe some of them aren’t in the right br?
Then I’d say, as I continue to say DECOMPRESSION will help a lot.
But regardless the Su-39 should get R-27s at least.
I hope all British vehicles go up considerably because you British players are so insanely toxic for some reason.
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They’re 100% bumping it up in br
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They’re still an insane Fox-3
wanna redo the 1v1 but I only use R-77s?
No, we just don’t want to see your stupidity be used as justification to move a vehicle up to a br where it would suck because you don’t understand when a “buff” is actually a buff and when all it does is move something up to a br where it would be meh or suck
It won’t be 11.7 with those
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Not really, we were supposed to do another one, you never showed up.
You also lie a lot, so…
(^ this is pretty much max speed without snapping a wing btw)
R-27Rs literally preform the same as Vikhirs. It’s a weapon it had irl.
Giving it to it will not be the end of the world.
Also, having to trade 16x non radar pinging AGMs for 2x radar pinging (radar required) R-27Rs is actually something you should be advocating for.
Since it would mean more likely you’d run into someone with this setup and would have an easier time killing them, since they must be OP to you as well.
Unless of course you are…
damn you are really set on something that you are hugely wrong about, thought this would have died down by now. just move on and accept that the SU-39 won’t fit in game at a reasonable BR without being hugely unrealistic.
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It would actually be more realistic to give it R-27s over R-24s…
Since it fitted them.
Like you and your so called sim skill?
it won’t. The su-39 simply gets moved to a higher BR like we said. You’re the one acting like it’s the end of the world.
No one brought up R-24s but you also
we really do just make things up now.
(can’t wait until ts guy respond with some laughing JJJ emoji “actually im right you’re wrong how did it feel to spread misinformation”)
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Im being genuine, the hawks cant even catch a frogfoot unless its a clean airframe (no missiles, only gun) and on low fuel. they also have no turn performance at all, they are a sad plane and harriers… well thats an issue that wont ever be fixed after the leaks
it does scramble 9m… worth having an actual look as i had that exact issue with 9m when using GR.7 harrier.
would be acceptable for it. its an A-10 late with a lot more speed so it should be higher than an A-10.
being slow with a good turn is a decent defence as the slower planes are your plaything and the faster ones always overshoot.
calling out your BS =/= toxic.
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hes always like that, and then claims everyone else is the toxic/harassing one
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It cant do that because dead tanks cant move. At least on their own.
All but 2 missiles on su39 are laser guided ones anyway. And anti rads.
I can only think of 11.7 harriers. And even then, you get night battles once in a century.
R27 reached target faster. Besides that r27 pulls better and does it on its own, you dont need to do corrections in tpod and guess lead.
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bit of a strawman mentioning night battles as it is a once in a blue moon situation.
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Tis be the way you’ve always treated me, so I just give it back now. I’ve given plenty of chances.
Again, I would love to believe you, but it’s hard given our history. I’d say let’s turn over a new leaf, but that never seems to change a thing, once the others all pile in, you join them.
Would you care to test it?
More speed sure, but 2x less irccm AAMs.
R-60s are practically pointless at 11.7 unless you catch someone entirely off guard… not to mention how bad their flare resistance / burn time is.
R-73s are usable, but there’s a lot of stipulations to using them.
Like you comment later, the Su-39 turns decent… against certain vehicles, mirages, a-10s, etc etc all out turn you, you can probably out turn about 50% of what you’ll see, but at the same rate, 50% of what you’ll see can out turn you.
And if you’re carrying anything outside of AAMs, it drops to a 40/60 split in favor of others out turning you.
And I’m talking just with Vikhir pods.
Sure you can drop them, but most people in sim don’t because the time it requires to fly back.
Or keybinds…
buddy its the way you treat everyone since 2025 literally your messages a year ago carry the same arrogant tone now.
Me when a known slow trainer doesn’t catch up with one of the faster subsonics in game. But personal beef over facts.
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I can list over 100 examples of you and the others doing those very things. Repeatedly before I even snap back.
- night battles are still a possibility, it should be considered, also the A-10’s have IR guided munitions and thermals. You’ll be hoping GMTI is working properly or waiting for a tank to fire to illuminate it.
- never had a great track record with GMTI scoring kills.
- sure R-27s pull harder, but they also give rwr pings. Vikhirs don’t. Granted they pull less g’s. So again it would be a “pick your poison” kind of deal.
- why do you keep brining up the targeting pod? You don’t need it for corrections on the launch of a Vikhir I’m pretty sure.
The normal optic afaik does all the same things.
Still, it’s a possible possibility.
Ground and air.
I can list 1000 instead. Dating back 2 years even.
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Ah yes, people playing all sorts of nations just dogpile you for no reason at all for the past year or so.
It does affect all IR A2A missiles, both 9M and R73 IRCCM does little agaisnt it.
Launching aircraft needs to be extremely close for the missile to power through it (had it happen with 9J in ground battles) or fired at angle where it doesnt see IRCCM at all.
Not sure if A2G IR guided munitions are affected as well but seeing as they are affected by LDIRCM I wouldnt rule it out.
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Huh when?
I don’t remember there being an agreed time for one
I’m down for it again though
Not really. Most of these people only play one or two nations at best.
I’ve actually play a good majority of the nations. I don’t really play China or Israel though.