Let’s not forget it’s “Pingless” IFF on HMD.
Which is so goated.
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the community is half of the problem with this game, and you are half of the community
you are not only advocating for the su-39 to be 12.3 with ARH missiles, but also the AV-8B+ and MF-346A
Or because the Su-39 is only good in a ground role.
In sim it suffers in air due to its limited weapons, and how you have to use the R-73s, they’re not much better than the R-60s.
Let me guess if I were to check your stats, you’ve likely never flown the Su-39. Am I going to be correct?
yes? is this supposed to be a gatcha, because it’s really not.
You literally ignored the Sea Harrier FA.2
AND ‘THAT’ was what I mentioned.
Four missiles in total if you’re equipped with BOL pods.
And I can guarantee the Su-25 flies better than the Harrier 1 fuselage.
How in the world did a Su-39 with R-77s become 12.3 BR when there are inferior SHAR stuck at 13.0BR ffs.
This seems like my line, not yours.
You are trying to gelding Su-39 since it will be stuck at 13.0 if it gets R-77, and no one will ever buy it.
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Shocker, a USA main who doesn’t have any experience in the things he’s complaining about.
Maybe Gaijin will buff strike aircraft like bombers that take no damage.
Harrier FRS.1 can still burn out the engine…British tech in war thunder all the short comings none of the perks
@UniqueScorpions-live look at: su-30MK2, initial BMPT (current BMPT for that matter), panstir (both variants)
you also have ramjet missiles that have some of the highest explosive mass that can get across NE in under a minute and destroy boats without issue. KH-38MT is both overpowered and doesn’t exist, etc. etc.
I have also heard some things about naval and russia too. every tech tree you have some dumb shit way overpowered at too low of a br that gaijin can’t even reason their way out of.
The Su-39 is rarely purchased as is.
Did you intentionally miss the part where you have to trade weapons to use other weapons ?
^ here I underlined it for you.
They could just give it R-27s or R-77s.
The problem is it needs better offensive capabilities, and be able to actually not just be food for a fighter.
R-77s on a subsonic like that (and given how bad R-77s are) and. The fact you have to trade your R-73s for them means you have higher pull, but still have to use your radar.
Your mind is stuck in a single track logic pattern. Think about the alternative factors while being reasonable.
And yes, you are 100% being biased, you are all the time.
Btw the F-14D is 12.7 and has 6 or 8 Aim-54s and Aim-9ms…
So your argument was what again?
T58, T26E5, T14, F-14IRIAF, F-14D, F-16XL, Helena, Charles F Adam’s… etc.
I could keep going, but here’s just a few examples of OP as hell vehicles.
T-58 is the only outlier here.
All the SU-30 premiums with six of your second best ARH missile at the same BR make up for the F-16XL, IRIAF is 13.7 now where it should always have been, F-14D is just an F-14B with a full PD radar with no other functional differences.
I don’t play naval so not much input there.
It’s 13.0
They are bad at mega bvr larp (which is impossible on su39 anyway) but neat at closer ranges. Much more reliable than r73 which goes for couple flare pops.
Yeah under 6 miles range an R-77 can be good in some circumstances.
But in my F-4S I’ll just donk you with an Skyflash before your even close.
No?
SHAR FA.2 can also run with 6x Missiles if you ditch BOL pods
4x AIM-9M(Shared pylon with 2x AIM-120 or BOL) with 2x AIM-120B.
And with that loadout… it is limited to 60 countermeasures
It might be true that it needs a better offensive capability
But your solution will eventually BE WORSE FOOD FOR A FIGHTER
In 11.7 you see F/A-18C Early at maximum
But in 13.0, you need to fight against tons of premium Su-30s, and many 4th Gens
You are acting like US Mains who cry for AIM-120A or AIM-9M on their premium Hornet, but on the Russian side.
A single track logic pattern?
Gaijin Balances vehicles like that, no?
‘Ooof, modern ARH missiles, then 13.0 minimum-’
IIRC, both F-14B and D are 13.0BR in Air RB, not 12.7.
So, if you give R-77 on Su-39
No matter how good or bad it is
Gaijin will just shove it into 13.0 BR, and it will be DOA
At this point, I think that line was a self-introduction of yourself
Your pattern about Su-39 is literally the same as those Hornet mains who cope: F/A-18C Early with AIM-120&9M could remain 13.0-13.3BR
When the Finnish F-18C is stuck at 14.0BR with the same capability.
I am telling you that your suggestion will nail the coffin shut on the Su-39
I am wondering why dismissing your biased idea becomes ‘biased’
I don’t give a damn about Su-39 getting R-77 or not by itself
If you really want to get doomed? Then go on, get R-77, be 13.0BR, face tons of 4th gens.
Simple.
There is no way the Su-39 can become a lower BR than 13.0
Because there is precedent.
SHAR FA.2 is literally worse than any 13.0BR jets and worse than AV-8B+ in nearly all aspects
But still stuck at 13.0BR for years.
So if you give R-77s to the Su-39, Gaijin just shove them into 13.0BR. Then it will be worse than now.
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Mate the Tornado GR.4 is a higher BR in air battles and has 2 Aim9M.
Ground attack aircraft are not supposed to be able to beat dedicated fighter aircraft.
It has self defence missiles.
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F-4S don’t have Skyflash
You are lying here.
I mean you really wouldn’t beat them.
Most dedicated fighters get 2-8 SARH or ARH around the Su-39.
Let’s say in the “best” loadout the Su-39 gets…
2 R-60s (pretty much useless)
2 R-77s (best for high alt under 6miles but has some uses at low alt if the enemy fighter messes up).
And
2 R-27s (ER or R) the only real long range usable SARH it would get. If it gets an R-27R it wouldn’t out pace anything fired at it, because almost all it’s competitors go Mach 4.0+.
So the plane would become a noob trap.
Such as the F-14s (expect these are a bit harder to dodge, they can gain a lot of alt and launch many many arhs).