Stock SARH/ARH on top tier planes

still have the option to pay

@Pyro_Addict Oh no!!! We have someone checking stats to diss someone! Someone hold my hand! I’m severely shaken up over what I already know myself! I could care less about my stats, never stated I was any good or above average. If I’m in something that I’ve got a 1.0K/D. Awesome! If not well I better play more and learn. I’ve ODL my way up tanks, I’ve premiumed my way to high tier jets. I used the methods at hand to get to what I wanted for my own preference at my own pace. At any means necessary. And play what I wanted to enjoy and spaded vehicles I liked playing. And oh my! I play on console with a controller because I enjoy sitting on my couch when I play video games! Do you need anything else? Oh I have a bunch of premiums too!

Which proves a really good point! Still doesn’t change the fact at hand that it’s possible to spade your vehicle even if you aren’t that good at the game. People just want the silver platter placed in front of them and want it now.

And not to burst your bubble, I am not bothered by you trying to be passive aggressive. You are still not going to change the fact earning SARH missiles or ARHs isn’t hard. You just don’t want to waste time struggling and losing.

But also, you’ve proved that stats matter to you since you’ve had to look mine up over a disagreement that you or anyone else that doesn’t agree how the game currently is, that it’s too hard for you to keep your stats up without the crutch of better modification at stock level.

At the end of the day, just grind it out or use GE. It’s as simple as that. Doesn’t matter how good or bad someone is, it can still be done. Everyone’s problem is with at what pace it’s done, which all goes back to you want to have good stats. Still… it’s a revolving door that some people just can’t escape and grasp the facts at hand. Like it or not, tough.

lmao its definitely about stats and not ENJOYMENT OF THE GAME

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@Italy_Suffers then just grind it out and enjoy it after you get it cuz then the grind is over and you won’t have a need to complain about the stock grind.

So… full circle again it is. You want what you want faster because you don’t want to struggle and lose and possibly worsen your stats but also won’t pay for it to nullify your complaint (which I have advised against previously since it not hard). Got it. This has truly become a revolving door now.

But it’s good to see that you’re tell me to inflict pain upon myself because you dislike my counter argument to your silver platter point. Got it. Very mature sir.

nobody gives a shit about stats, we care about ENJOYMENT, thick ass skull

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@Italy_Suffers Then, revert to what I have said numerous times, grind it out and it will be over with. Or simply use GE to buy it so you can get to your enjoyment FASTER.

That’s simply not true, even having a IR+SARH combo will still end up in a challenge to grind.

With premium. Without it, you’re basically hopeless from Rank V and above.

You’re not bursting anyone’s bubble. We touched your ego and now you’re just holding your nonsensical ground based on the assumption that everyone enjoys a challenge beyond unfair, and thus, not fun.

I only cared about stats considering that you don’t care to perform at all, you’re just a mediocre expecting to carry everyone to your mediocrity based on the assumption that we enjoy to expend half a day dying to unlock underperforming missiles compared to the meta right now, and to wait for another half a day to reach ARHs. SARHs are worth a shot whenever you’re decently positioned, and that’s a reasonable challenge, moreso with NATO semi active stuff.

It’s not as simple and condescending to gaijin, lil kid. You wouldn’t say that when APFSDS wasn’t a stock round in GRB. It was greately praised when such round was eventually added as a stock to rank VIII platforms on ground. I don’t think that SARH missiles becoming stock would be a thing to debate if it happens, it would be certainly praised as well.

Well, except for you that you don’t care about performing at all.

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Missing the point.

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@Pyro_Addict My dude, you’re beating the same dead horse @Italy_Suffers is.

You see ARH as a stock starting at BR10.7 since the F14A Early has them at BR11.7 which has been pretty good to use due to this summer sale since everyone on PC splurging on top tier premiums right now.

Buying premium time to enhance your advancement in gaining RP&SL is a personal preference to the player for whatever reasoning he/she chooses. (Just like buying your modifications with GE, speeding up your progress at your means that is already in the game)

Having IR&SARH as stock and getting kills with them is a challenge? Just like earning all your modification from the current stock grind? Because that’s a challenge also… one which many people have already done.

And with the time y’all have spent trying to counter my argument against having stock SARH, you could have probably earned them if your stats are just so much better than mine.

Stock IR will always be a thing, SARH probably not, since IR can and have been equipped on 5th Gen fighters, meaning SARH may just become a lower tier modification to earn. But if they added as a stock to the late 4th Gen fighter all the more to them but won’t happen because it will be AIM9X as IR, for SARH AIM7P, for AMARRM AIM120B/120C (for example on the US side). Which still leave IR, SARH and Fox 3s newer variants as missile modifications.

As of right now, just go grind it out. It’s really not that hard. You can make your own choices on how to gain access to them. Using GE, Premium time, or grinding it out without any additives. If them not being stock is ruining the enjoyment of the game because you can’t have them right away, it’s simply because you don’t want your stats hurting, you lack patience to be the bottom of the totem pole because you lack hardware to perform at your standard or you are being snobby and wanting something you can easily earn put on a silver platter for yourself for free. Sorry to say one of the above mentions is ruining your “enjoyment”. Pick your poison, or pick them all.

I still stand by my choice to say leave the stock grind how it is right now, it’s simply not hard to tough it out and do it.

Yes it is, at 13.0 it definately is a challenge.

The current stock grind is a much harder one, mister.

And i’ve done it countless times, and i did it with the F-15C for the first time in the new ARH meta. But giving a new set of missiles as stock can provide a better grinding experience wether for me or pros, or low-end players, like you admitted to be.

Weavis69 realizes that giving stock SARH is not a big deal and it can be an outdated stock ordnance in the medium-term (unbeliveable).

I admire your shameless writing.

This is what in rhetoric is called missing the point, as you’ve been defending this tedious grind cycle only by the premise of everyone being impatient or statpadders, and not addressing the gameplay experience at 13.0 in any significant metric.

I don’t know @Italy_Suffers stand on this one, but I’m certainly not trying to convince you at any point, my replies were just attempts to disprove your egoistic and irrational take.

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Every plane should have all A2A weaponry, chaff, and the G suit when stock. It is unacceptable to have to grind out a ton of RP just to have a useable aircraft. Even below top tier, the stock grind is quite bad, with planes only having 2 mediocre rear aspect missiles, compared to spaded aircraft with 4+ all aspect missiles.

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@Pyro_Addict i admire you you for trying to beat the dead horse. I really do. But it’s just simply not hard to gain RP over time no matter your play style or ability. If someone want a handout, just buy it with GE. Otherwise, suck it up and grind it out cuz Stock grind sucks at any and every BR, that as a fact won’t ever change in the game because it’s literally the structure it’s built on.

Also SARH won’t ever be an outdated ordinance because it is still currently being used today in this day and age as an armament. (F-35 carries SARH missiles still and we are nowhere near that generation of fighter) It will always be a modification you earn. SARH becoming a tier one modification instead of a tier two, that’s more Plausible of happening. But very doubtful because they will just keep the increase amount of IR missiles as a tier one mod. But adding it as stock? Gaijin is more than likely to keep it tier two so that the modification tree would stay 4 tiers down air to ground, and air to air. (Handful have 3 each for different type of missiles or 4, 5 or 6 mods per armament type on other jets)

We all play the same game right? We know how Gaijin is. QOL updates are far and few between and this is a minuscule issue that some people would rather blow out of shape because it’s just too challenging to be a piñata for a short time. Would it be a nice QOL upgrade yeah, no one would deny that, but is it NEEDED, no, because the current set up works just fine.

On 29SMT i use:
1/2xR-73 for close engagements;
3/2xR-77 for hyped radar missle, than ain’t need to been guided all the way;
1 R-27ER for BVR in the start of battle;
And 1 R-27ET for sneaky strikes/chasing retreating enemies.

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Go check the new announcement.


I guess that you’ll stick to two stock IR missiles regardless, since having more is just for statpadders.
@_wtUFO You’ll stick to two missiles too, right?

@Italy_Suffers @Ion_Protogen In the end, Gaijin gave us some W.
Well done gentlemen.

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Now stay in the TOP TIER but without crying this time

Last time I checked, I just use what’s given in the game and didn’t complain about it unless something was actually broken and not working correctly.

Slow clap for the participation trophy Gaijin is handing out.

A raise of hands from everyone who already achieved getting medium to long range missiles on a top tier jet or spaded one already. Doesn’t change the fact that it can be down without needing them stock. lol.

Idk about you, but I have countless clips of Sparrows going for a completely different target than the one locked, and then killing them without ever locking them to begin with.

You sound like a high horse but funny enough extremely low skill player. How does one get such a bloated ego when they’re in the bottom bracket of players?

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Because locking is just giving a rough direction, but CW seeker missiles will follow the biggest radar return regardless of what you’ve locked. This is normal and intended behavior.

You perform poorly with every aircraft you own. Of course you don’t find the grind hard, since you clearly can’t even take advantage of a spaded aircraft.