A few tips:
Use mouse for aiming, ad you will improve from that by a LOT.
Also, swap HE for HEAT in german 75mm guns. HEAT has more filler, and it can also penetrate armor, in case you load it for a soft tank and suddenly an armored one appeares.
You shot a T-34E in the front with the Italian T-34. It has more frontal armor, and you can not pen it at that angle and distance. Nothing extraordinary.
You shot a normal hull T-34 at distance in the upper side hull, while it was angled at high angle. Normal stuff again.
You killed an early T-34 by shooting it in the side. Normal stuff again.
You then got hit in the side 2 times by a SU-85, that did nothing to your tank, so that’s for the russian bias there xd.
Now you play the Jagdpanzer.
You shoot a T-34 in the track while angled. You only track it as expected.
Same with second shot.
Next shot hits the angled front at a distance. Does not pen as expected.
He pens you as expected, yet he only kills 2 crew. Unexpectedly low damage from him.
He gets killed by someone else.
You got killed by a KV-1.
Match ends.
This is not the point…and not even sure it is true. ON AVERAGE M10 and T34 are comparable…in my case i actually have better results with M10, but it may suit my “slower” style better. I played it a lot…and very few players knew how to kill it…if i could find a good spot i could use the excellent gun and survive a few shots, making it a very good “tank”.
As most “recipes”…execution is not so easy as you make it. Game is about killing stuff with the ammo you have on the gun and not having to aim too much. ANY TARGET that requires specific ammo or aim point is a tough target…so are T34 and M10…and a lot more.
MY POINT…anecdotal cases prove that it is POSSIBLE, not that it is PRACTICAL. I have frequent matches where i hit something 3 or more times and it survives…BUT this happens with ALL NATIONS and most weapons.
I am guessing all players develop a “mental list” of targets that are tougher to kill…the number or Russian tanks i have on that list is not abnormal…and the first ones on my list are not russian at all. Some IS tanks annoy me…but the nation with more “tought” tanks is Germany FOR ME. It may change depending on playstyle and BR, i guess.
The main argument for me is actually that all publicly available numbers that pop up sometimes…like the 100.000 players analysis on other topic…indicate that tanks efficiency is globally similar for all nations…
You are watching me in the Poland replay not the T34 of the enemy in question .I’ll have a look and see if I can find him. I need to download the game on this PC first I think, if it will take it.
So.
He was getting shot by you, and your teammate in an M10. The M10 missed the first shot, and then killed the T-34 with a second clear shot in the weak spot.
The T-34 survived the shots you took, which was 3 or 4, all of them were shot at a bad angle.
You should have aimed for the turret in that case.
yes for a not experienced enemy player the m-10 is a problem to kill it because of its good armor but if he has some experience all he need is to reload a HE shell and aim the turret anywhere…then one shot kill.
Just look right-left- up-down the cannon , right-left of the turret one shot with a sherman HE shell.
I have not seen this analysis, i would like to see it but despite that i am playing WT many years and i think i have some experience to understand if something is going wrong and as proverb says : ‘’ Dont search for bear footprints if you have the bear in front of you" .
No it was the winner for the other side who bounced every shot all game .He won with 7 for 0 .He didnt look that good a player awareness wise but he didn’t need to be as it turned out.
I had a miserably game I think but I don’t think I encountered him. I was just watching to see how he achieved his high score and no deaths.
I agree…but i see it wxactly the other way…you seem to be looking for specific cases (footprints) to prove your point…while user experience indicates all nations are similar (the bear).
I have seen several discussions on several topics where two (or more) players with years of experience are “sure” of two opposite scenarios…
MY EXPERIENCE is not that any nation is better…and i play the same game. I have no particular preference for russian vehicles…if anything i prefer german ones (played a lot of panzer general)…and i still think that the best tanks in WT are german…but by a small margin…and not at all BRs.
Like i said above…T34 and Zis5 are very good…but i dont recall any other russian tank that dominates its BR…there are some IS tanks (that i don’t have) that are very tough to kill…and perhaps at high tier also (i also dont have them).
IN GENERAL i dont look at russian vehicles as hard to kill.
I look at King Tiger, Tiger, Panther and JPzIV as hard to kill…there are Russian tanks at same BR…ISs or T34s…and are less problematic IMHO.
I do concede ONE POINT…some russian vehicles get a lot of ricochets…usually sloped armor ones…but i am not sure if this is “realistic” or not.
The difference in tanks is also based on terrain.
Some tanks are made for a particular terrain where the other tank may not be able to win. Its like a bear vs crocodile - former would win if the battlefield was mountainous and latter would win if the battlefield was water.
German and American tanks have been to many places around the world in WW2 and so some of their tanks (like tiger and sherman respectively) are good on many terrains.
Its only the tanks who are affected by terrain for air and water are equal everywhere on the planet (temperature and current direction are the only difference)
Thus, this “russian bias” is either due to dominating terrain or just a skill issue of many people. When people die to russian tanks they just say this but it isnt true
I have played russian tanks but i also keep dying to tanks of other nations. Thus this whole concept of stalinium armour is just a joke.
About the youtuber analysis :
First of all, i agree with your comment about data accuracy ,
and ll make some comments too:
I am not a GRB player but if we assume that this analysis could apply to GAB too, its strange for me that germany , russia and usa have the lowest average win ratios.
Average win ratio high to low (if my calculations are correct) :
France 0,582 , Sweden 0,561 , GB 0,548 , Japan 0,548 , Israel 0,539 , Italy 0,538 , China 0,535 , Usa 0,502 , Russia 0,492, Germany 0,486.
It is even stranger for me that especially at BRs 4.0 - 5.0 were t-34s, zis-5, kv-85, su-185 dominate, Russia has the lowest average win ratio of all nations and similar situation at BRs 5.3-6.7 with the t-34 85s , IS1,2.
Same thing at Brs 2.3 -3,7 were panzers iii -iv, marders, dicker maxes, dominate, germany has the lowest average win ratio of all nations and similar situation at BRs 5.7 -7.0 with tigers i,ii panthers, jags.
It is also strange to me that Usa has the lowest win ratios of tanks at BRs 11.3 - 12.3 but i have not played that high BRs much and especially not usa tanks to have a clear point of view.
I dont think that if we would had asked several WT playes which country has the best win ratio by their experience that the answer would be france , i guess it would be a derby between russia and germany, especially on low to medium BRs.
i am presenting the insidents (footprints) for someone who needs them to be convienced or become just sceptical that there is a problem, in case he hasnt already seen the problem (bear).
Dispite that we disagree in general i dont see an abyss between these quotes :)
Because there is no japanese or italian bias… plus i would appreaciate dying to tanks of those nations if they were on a lower br because their start is a bit hard
