Southeast Asian (ASEAN) Machinery Of War Discussion Thread

Just for the heck of it, since the Philippines is the only one lacking in any sort of “subtree” for the ASEAN, I would like to propose these. l will try my best to link it with existing proposals that are as close to it as possible and not repeat the same vehicles that are in other SEA nations (Note: I will mention if proposal is for another nation.):

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Cadillac Gage V-300 LAV

→ Proposal is for the US. PH is the only other foreign operator besides the US.

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GKN/Alvis Simba IFV
→ Proposal is for the UK. Was evaluated against the Belgian SIBMAS for Malaysian service. PH on the other hand, chose this vehicle in both APC and 25mm IFV variants. PH is the only operator of the vehicle.

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SPYDER-SR System
→ Proposal is for Israel but is in active service as well with Singapore, Vietnam, and the Philippines. Philippine variant is mounted on a Tetra Truck Chassis.

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Sabrah Light Tank
→ Based on the ASCOD II Chassis, equipped with Elbit System’s 105mm turret. Another chassis bought by the AFP is based on the Pandur II Chassis yet to be delivered, so no photos exist as of now.

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M113 UT25 AIFV
→ M113 equipped with Elbit System’s UT25 turret.

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LVT-H6 - FSV armed with M49 105mm howitzer
→ Proposal is for the ROC Marine Corps, but this was also in service with the Philippine Marines - famously photographed in the 1986 EDSA People Power Revolution.

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M113 FSV
→ Basically an M113 with an Alvis Scorpion Turret that is also done by the Australians afaik. Its quite similar to this proposal: Wan Cheng 2 FSV except that one is armed with a Chaffee Turret. I have not yet found a similar proposal either for the Australian or Philippine variants.

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AIFV-25 / ACV-15
→ Im surprised there is no actual proposal for any version of this yet (hell theres not even a proposal for the original Dutch Variant - on that note, somebody for the love of god, make a proposal for this).

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Marine Multi-Purpose Vehicle MMPV
→ Rumored to be a Mitsubishi Pajero heavily modified to look like a Humvee with a recoilless rifle at the back of it, used by the PH Marines.

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Air/Helos

T-129B Atak
→ Basically the same version as is in the game. Turkey, Nigeria, and PH operate the type.

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AW109AH LUH
→ Proposal could be for Malaysia because of its LOH designation. It is in service with Malaysia as a LOH but in PH it is designated as an Attack Helicopter (despite its lackluster armament). I included it here because I am unsure of the variant but WT should really implement Malaysia’s as it seems to be the variant able to actually equip anything other than unguided rockets.

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AW159 Wildcat
→ Proposal is for the UK. ASW Helicopter in service with UK, ROK, & PH. ROK & PH Variants both are able to be armed with Spike NLOS ATGMs and K745 Blue Shark Torpedoes. Malaysia had planned to buy the type for ASW duties but Im not sure if the order went through.

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FA-50PH
→ Currently, PH is the only nation that operates the FA variant of the T-50 Golden Eagle, though Malaysia did just order the type and deliveries are to be expected soon.

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Navy

I will just relist the ones that I have already mentioned just to centralize everything:

Patrol Boat Q-111 “Luzon”
BRP Rajah Humabon
Jacinto-class corvette BRP Artemio Ricarte (PS-37) - Peacock of Modernization

These are also some that I think might be good:

Acero Class Patrol Gunboat
→ Although sadly, its not even mentioned in the Isreali Coastal Tech Tree, it is based on the Shaldag V Patrol Gunboat. Equipped with Spike NLOS, 30mm Bushmaster, and .50 cals - its quite the modern gunboat that works in the War Thunder environment. I am working on a proposal for this as of the moment.

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Conrado Yap Class Corvette
→ Basically a Pohang Class Corvette, I think its lack of ASMs makes it quite suited for WT gameplay but Im not too sure. I like to think of it as just a bigger HMS Peacock in-game. Might be just too modern for comfort in the current state of naval in WT.

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I’d love to have that M113 FSV. Heck I’d take any turreted M113 variants, they’re just so goofy looking.

Also for the list, my KRI Sultan Thaha Syaifuddin suggestion is up:

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I would be very happy to have suggestions about the F-15SG in Singapore.

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Im done with the OV-10F Bronco suggestion for Indonesia, its now in pending o7

Edit: Approved!

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God I wish they would implement COIN aircraft in-game, even if I hate CAS so much as a Ground RB player lol. Maybe even allow them to spawn in the helicopter airfield.

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Hello,

My proposal for the Acero Class Patrol Gunboat - Securing the Philippine Coastline was finally approved for posting. Please do check it out!

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With all three Chinese tanks now so bad, I would be happy to see the Leopord2 SG enter the Chinese TT

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Wouldn’t change much surely, it would be more like a 11.7 vehicle post update, comparable to that of Leopard 2 PL. Any how China’s top tier is trash at the moment with GAIJING cutting out part of J10 AG weaponary and I would most likely just play 11.0 (ZTZ99 MBT2k) BR after this.

Nah

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Sad news for you buddy.

ASEAN including singapore are going to japan.
Personaly i am looking forward to grinding the VT-4 in the japanese tree

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Why Japan, that is not logical cause they have nothing to do with Japan and are probably more logically either a brand new tree, or just separated into many nations, where they are manufactured.

Speaking of ASEAN Vehicles, I’ve added more to the list:

Additional ones pending approval or work in progress.

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Thank you for your work.

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Alright guys lets end it, no need to go off-topic, their question is already answered no need to continue hammering on the point

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Regarding the F16, what is the earliest AMRAAM it carried? Cause these things should come ASAP.
Also is there any chance of Bangladesh being part of this? From experience a Crotale would do nicely as SPAA.

This specfic F-16 got AIM-120Cs first iirc. But it probably wouldn’t come soon anyway, as it is equipped with AN/APG-83 AESA radar.
More likely is the Thai (e)MLU which could be added any time with just AIM-120B and AN/APG-68(V)9.

I’m waiting working another ASEAN aircraft

  • JAS39 Gripen C (Thailand)
  • F-15SG (Singapore)
  • A-4S Skyhawk (Singapore)
  • Northrop F-5S (Singapore)
  • Strikemaster Mk 84 (Singapore)
  • F-16C Block 52 (Singapore)

as in vehicles from Bangladesh being grouped up in ASEAN? probably not considering Bangladesh isnt an ASEAN member, probably would be best to group them up with SAARC with other South Asian countries (although without India)

AN/APG68v9 would still be quite strong, I would say it coming with J11B and early typhoon, since they are quite similar in terms of radar, but JAS39C is also an option.

Hello, I would just like to share my recently approved for posting suggestion for the SIAI-Marchetti AS.211 “Warrior” that saw service in both Singapore & Philippines, please do check it out!


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