The other remedies involve changing the match maker, adding different ques, ones for serious players that want matches with players that stick around, and a more casual que. But that splits the playerbase up and gaijin will never do it.
Best thing we can get is going to be reward incentives of whatever flavor.
I assume this is top tier talk? Why are players leaving after one death? If you are all top tier players then you must be doing it or some of you must so why do you do it?
If the issues is direct entrants with single premium packs only having one vehicle then give them multiple respawns like the M51. Problem solved. Alternatively for 80 dollars unlock the tech tree below them so they have full access up to the the tier of the premium they purchased.Either way they stay and play which helps ODL and they gain more playing knowledge and quicker.
If we have an issue where players cannot simply afford to play then that is something Gaijin need to fix straight away for the sake of their own game.
You all laugh at the prospects of the game dying but how can it not be under these circumstances? Veterans are bailing out and the new blood is doing more harm than good so more vets bail and so it goes on.
People say ODL is the cause of the rot but what makes players ODL? whatever it is
is the actually cause of the problem, the ODL is a symptom.
It’s only a few that keep spewing the ‘factoids’ about how many left from the old forums, and making out that many older players are leaving.
Maybe they got tired of you parroting the problems to them enough that your echo chambers made them quit… That could easily be the issue to be honest.
Many of my tanker buddies quit long ago. I am a shadow of my former self in this game and on these forums.
As I see it, this game is set to favor fighter pilots. I’m glad to have spaded all of my bombers long ago, as flying them anymore seems painful. After the addition of helicopters, I found things increasingly difficult for spading tanks.
I’ve certainly stopped blowing money on this game, and am very skittish at even starting any more “free to play” games.
It is my opinion that 1DL is a reaction to aircraft. (Players in GFRB only get to play tanks-only for the first few minutes) A younger me would likely have started that, as I used to be keen on figuring out how to play a game to win, back when I was young. I’m not that player anymore, though, and 1DL was something that had been going on for quite some time before I caught on. The very games I hated and found most grinding were where I would start at the bottom BR for the match, but kept doing well enough to respawn until the round ended, even though half the team was gone the first time I died. I’ve quit playing like that since then.
I think this is what needs to be done:
First, Increase starting SP amount enough to allow 2 tank spawns without need to earn any more SP, but increase the cost of subsequent respawns to compensate.
Secondly, apply global crew lock to ALL nations if a person leaves the battle after 1-st death.
3-rd, if someone repeatedly goes AFK after second respawn instead of playing the game, punish them with ban time.
It’s about time to take kid’s gloves off.
Ha trust you…
Then your want for it to be that, is only to further your old-as-the-hills issue… And it’s not the case.
We’ve already established that peopel leave the matches for so many excuses that it’s not a singular, and you wanting to further that age-old rant about air being a problem that you’d like to ignore, comes back with the same old addage…
SPAA is there, use it… It’s cheap. It’s readily available, and if you’re going to ODL anyway, then why not waste 2 spawns of SPAA on even trying…
It’s the dumbest part of the ODL loop, they’re going to quit with at least 2 spawns available, just because they can’t actually handle the game…
And easy to destroy by aircrafts who are already in the air.
Better to 1DL than be a free frag
At least they’re trying, and maybe they might hit something rather than just bailing out like chickens and gooses.
Stop being so caught up on your KDR and ‘giving’ the enemy something… It sounds like you exploit the game to avoid giving people kills. I know you condone that terrible act.
I can’t see what the Fool put as I set him to ignore ,He doesn’t seem to realize despite me telling him.I imagine he just rants to himself all day : )
I agree totally, I just stopped paying as well.Like the UK TV license ,no tantrum ,no protest just lost interest.The map “Fixing” killed it for me ,I stopped playing for about a month when I found you could no longer shoot through a wire fence in Cargo port from the runway.A little thing but it was the straw that broke the camels back .I took War Thunder off pay pal and that was it.
I drifted back and am quite happy at below 6BR.I take the bad side now because it costs me nothing.
If ODL is not harming Gaijins profits then it is not an issue to Gaijin and that is where the buck stops.
People can complain all they like and yes players will just leave and they have left.I have stopped spending and you have so how many others have? Some say the numbers are dropping ,some say the old players are leaving and many are saying there are no quality players in top tier.
It all comes from this forum so if Gaijin and it’s worshipers hate the bad news maybe they should close the forum.
I feel you’re projecting to be honest…
The forum has become a sounding board for the afflicted, and those who find opposition often just spam and berate others who hold opposing points, and get all aggressive about it…
Remember, you were the one who linked me mental health help lines because you couldn’t handle that fact.
It’s also not just from this forum, it’s from so many places that people post the stupid nonsense negative whinge that it gets septic everywhere.
After all, steam forums, youtube comments, here, all the same… Same few people, spouting the same nonsense, gaining sub 1000 battle players who are merely struggling with the game, joining in because they can’t get the actual advice and help they need with the ‘XXX said that it was the game, and it has to be the game as I’M not at fault’
It just comes to be a moan at the end of it, and the choice to leave matches is a very selfish one indeed, as many times it happens within the first 5 minutes of a match, which to that, no-one is psychic, and those who leave are generally assuming the match is playing the way it will, and by them leaving they secure the loss.
This is where the ‘issue’ compounds.
This is not only a top tier issue. You find this behaviour already down to 5,0/5,3.
And with each sail it is good worth. And as you said Gaijin has to do something against it.
But this topic is an open one for month. And I do not see any ideas on their side.
There are quite a few ideas from the gamer here, but no a plan or an idea from Gaijin.
There’s not just one topic… There’s been quite a number of them.
And giving enemy more SP and bleeding the team of more tickets
Nothing wrong with that… It’s part of the game anyway.
Bring be a burden to the team is nothing to be happy about.
I prefer to have a team that leaves after fist death than a team that gives more to enemy team
Again … you comments are very funny.
What a pitty that many people how are writing here has a little more than “just sub 1000 battle”.
But ignoring those “sub 1000 battle gamers”, who should be future long term gamers, who finding you out after a sub 1000 battles that something is not right, they show us on point things must change.
We can be glad that new gamers give us feedback and ideas.
The longterms and already so deeply invovled, they have so many vehicles to play and the arrange things around … they have not the same view as the “sub 1000 battler gamers”.
What a shame talking about those people in such a manner. That is really rude, man.
Like honestly, with that mindset, do you think people should just stop queueing?
The chance is there to actually take some of thier tickets or make some SP yourself, or help another player, but you thinking that 100 tickets and giving some SP to another stops you…
That’s so defeatist that it’s laughable that you even play the game.
I played most of today at 4BR.I did see it a bit on a couple of maps where the bottom 3 had left ,must be the map sometimes,maybe the uptier.
I don’t think it is so much an issue lower down ,not game destroying as I hear it is at top tier and we don’t have 5 a side games either.
I am not suggesting hounding the Forum managers with questions but Smin and Stona have been very responsive to direct questions lately and that may be as good as you may get in terms of understanding what is going on.Simply ask if they have any info.
Off course they can only tell you what they know,they run the forum not the company.
Thanks Silkmonger … and trust me you are not the only.
I know two full squadrons with more than 30 people who quited because of 1DL
Take care
bye
Your grammar is terrible.
You’re making an error in that assumption to base the fact of people complaining only being in this thread, and I’ll forgive you for that as that is a common mistake for new entrants to threads to make…
I don’t ignore them, commonly I try help them see past the issue and get through it rather than wallowing in the mire of self-pity, self-doubt and blaming the game to make themselves feel better.
We can be mindful of those who sow the seeds of self doubt and assumption in the same breath…
Nothing to do with this in the slightest… Vehicles aren’t the issue, mindset often is.
I think you’re trying to hard to find a reason to make out I’m the bad guy that you genuinely haven’t read, or even thought about what was said.
So what squadrons are they, because they sound like they were having issues elsewhere to quit in that manner lol.