Built by US, operated by Thailand. Could you find Japan in this sentence? Same about oplot. Soviet tank, modernized by Ukraine (postsoviet country), operated by Thailand/Pakistan. Where is Japan/China here? Both vehicles deserve to be in creator nation tree under operator flag. Not in tree of nation which didnt make those vehicles nor operate them.
Sir, do you know what a sub-tree is?
Currently, Thailand tech tree is part of the Japanese tree because Gaijin tied those with some historical ties.
Just like how we got SA/India, France got Benelux, or Italy got Hungary.
So, if we follow the operator flag, the Japanese tech tree is the place for the Thai Stingray
Unless Gaijin dismissing Thai subtree idea and releases the independent ASEAN tech-tree.
If the Thailand branch weren’t tied with Japan, then you are right. Then thai stingray would’ve sat on US TT.
For example, we can see some Israel vehicles in the US/FR/UK before opening israel tech tree, and Germans have a South African armoured car which was added before introducing SA to us.
And about oplot… if that bald old man named [REDACTED due to political reasons] didn’t blunder…
We would also see oplot in the Soviet tree either.
Just… blame him. He permanently terminated the option to add Oplot to soviet tech tree. :/
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Can you find Japan in this image?
This is just where the Thai nation is placed, so it’s where Thai vehicles go.
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The US do have the Thai Stingray for whatever reason, even if it has the wrong flag right now. This is even weirder to me considering how they did the same for the NASAMS but still gave that the Norwegian flag.
Thai Stingray Variant
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Poor excuse to insert copypaste and extend grind process of certain tech tree. I wouldnt really mind if those were optional (at least if you have original vehicles/modules unlocked) but its necessary every damn time. So you have to break through 999 soviet/us vehicles just to get smth unique like aft09.
And their “historical ties” are just joke. Half of world could become US sub tree because of those ties. And even if they have some really deep lore. I boot up game not for those ties. And I expect trees to have unique vehicles so there is motivation to grind new trees and not adandon them because of overwhelming shermans, t34, pattons, t54 etc.
Oplot case just showed hypocrisy of devs once more especially compared to how they handled stingrays. US gets stingrays without operating them but USSR (which includes post soviet countries) cannot get oplot because Ukraine (post soviet country like Russia which we have in WT) didnt operate them (BVVD words on dev stream).
Yes I can click on “Research” and find crapton of Japan vehicles. Also Ki 27 Otsu on image is japanese aircraft not thai :)
I have a suggestion for you then
This way what nations you want to play is entirely up to you. You can decide to skip nations you are not interested in, and instead just focus on the part you actually want to play.
I can see where you got that Idea, but I came prepared!
If you don’t accept user camos, then I switch it with the Ki-43-III. I only prefer the Ki-27 because it’s a model Thailand operated while their Ki-43s were Ki-43-II instead
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Not just that absurd price but at the same time its basically worst of the 6.0 tigers. Not even worth if it was TT.
Had that conversation years ago. Nothing got better only worse when it comes to ww2 stuff. No lineups fixed with native vehicles. No extremly overtiered stuff put down. Now just with more bs uptiers like Chi-ri 5.7 etc. Will gaijin ever make ww2 Japan any competative? Or will it just stay “asian” difficulty switch button for ppl that wants harder gameplay?
What a retarded statement… If this the case then you don’t actually own any money IRL since you just earn it but didn’t design, print and cut it.
Agree but did you heard a word call “export only”
Yeah is not about gatekeeping because you just an asshole tryna to undermine Japan TT by using your backward and unlogical logic. From your “uniqueness” logic and saying Israel modify Sherman more unique than Japan self design tank to present “serving country not prioritise than the design country”, what I see is just a person that not sure why having huge anger against Japan TT but didn’t got any persuasive thought so can only using this kind of unlogical reason or accucing others that not agree with you as racist in the aim to achieve you retarted goal, which is very difference to the gatekeeping.
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What I meant was…
In case the Thailand branch wasn’t part of Japanese tech tree…
Gage Commando(US) designed, Thai bought.
Then US TT
Just like how Class 3 (P)
Vautour II IDF
Shot kal
And Magach 3
was.
If Thailand wasn’t subtree of Japan at all…?
Unlike how we are here.
Which cannot happen in current circumstances unless Thai became indepenent tech tree.
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Your entire comment in a nutshell
Yeah true, I just wanted to point out they got the Thai Stingray now anyways, even while Thailand has a home techtree.
Though this is just from them misunderstanding it as definitive production model and disregarding Thai configuration. It’s a lazy mistake, not a double standard.
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Which is fictional and is already in the game.
If it makes your ego feel any better, then you’re smarter than me 👍
Google says otherwise.
The transfer was never completed but the tank both existed and served in Belgium.
Yeah, and? The tank in-game has S-mine launchers, which Japan never purchased, has track armor, which Japan never used, has a default Japanese camouflage, which Japan never painted the purchased tank in, and has machine guns, which the tank lacked.
It’s a fictional and hypothetical design of what the tank might have looked like if it had actually arrived in Japan, but even then Gaijin has added elements, such as the S-mine launchers, which were never intended to be used on the Japanese Tiger.
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The camouflage isn’t really special, most camouflages in game are just a set of standard ones for a nation anyways, which on many vehicles aren’t historical.
But I will never understand why they didn’t just match the model with the real tank…
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The camouflage is special. It’s a unique “9th tank regiment” pattern which no other Japanese vehicle has access to, similar to how the premium Ro-Go and the Chi-He both have “unique” patterns.
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Yeah, but that doesn’t always mean it’s historical. For example Nagato comes in whatever this is as a “special camo” rather than a historical scheme.
When I said it isn’t special, I just meant that non-historical camos are very normal in game and not really a standard to judge them by. Most camos are either taken from other vehicles, completely made up or at least represented badly.
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Yeah. I figured that out when I tried to change the localization of some tank camouflages and found a lot are just outright fictional. All of Imperial Japan’s disruptive camouflages are fictional, as an example, with only the Ro-Go (pre-1942 standardization) and the premium Chi-He (post-1942 standardization) actually having accurate disruptive camouflages.
Edit: Also the Ho-Ri still uses postwar camouflage for some reason.
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It’s a small indie company who makes little money and needs to reuse models to stay afloat /s
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