I see what you mean.
Thanks.
I can imagine if we had BR range from reserve (1.0), to 100.0, and had the time to process through each vehicle to their respective BRs, and increase the range of BRs one can face to something like ±5.0, there would be a lot more granularity, while also facing BR opponents that seem reasonable. The only problem with this idea is that it would take forever to implement, and the amount of different vehicles one’s vehicle can face would be too small.
Afaik there are sketches of bumping the range to 15.0 relatively pain free (to fix high BR bracket)
Offcourse its a bit messy, but thats allways the case even with the current brackets where low BR is super compressed and high BR have messes like the current shifts of F-86/Mig-15 and F-104 and so fourth
I think if this were to happen, those messes would resolve into small / large collections of vehicles in their own bubbles (BR brackets), such that F-86s wouldn’t be able to face F-104s, and F-104s wouldn’t be able to face A-10s / A-5Cs (for example).
The BR gap difference between those would be such that they are 10.0 BR higher than one another (for example), so that they won’t ever face each other in a ± 5.0 BR uptier / downtier.
Possibly, but afaik the 15.0 sketches make a key point in maintaining lineup viability in GroundRB.
So its more of an evolution of the current system than what a 1 to 100 bump would be, which would be a major overhaul.
So while it would be nice, its harder to justify such a change than using the same framework we currently have.
Don’t bother, I even drew him a picture and he still doesn’t understand the difference between compression and decompression.
ELI5, in your opinion, was moving the early cold war jets down in BR considered compression or decompression?
Neither, cause it didn’t compress BRs.
To add compression the top BR needs to reduce, or a new class of jets is added without a new BR.
It compressed the BR below it, and decompressed the BR above it, thus neither.
Whereas, when ground went up from 11.0 to 11.7 in one year with no technological advancements, 9.0 tanks moving to 9.3 is decompression.
Fascinating.
Yes, I’m sure all of the 9.0 — 9.7 aircraft can breath easier now.
Unreal.
He is correct. There is no net gain in compression by the changes. Some of compression could be perceived as more or less painful, but it remains the same
Lol, what?
Compression means to reduce the distance between things.
If you move say a 6.0 down to 5.7.
Unless you reduce the top BR from 11.7 to 11.3, it’s just moving vehicles around.
War Thunder has only ever decompressed, and moved things around for at least the last 5 years.
Idgas about MM time, I just want to play my BR, and my BR only.
2+4=6
4+2=6
Nothing changed in regards to overall compresskpn, stuff only shifted. Was it a good change? No, it only shifted the problem down in BR.
Decompression increases the distance between things.
This might be the most bananas statement from you yet. Introducing aircraft with all-aspect missiles into a matchmaker BR range that includes flareless, sub-sonic aircraft without missiles or forcing 1950’s jets to fight supersonic aircraft is a symptom of compressed battle ratings.
Literally no one wants this. Why do you insist on using awkwardly worded semantic language to argue otherwise?
Technically alvis is right.
Gaijin has never reduced the BR spread ever, however they introduce vehicles in a compressed state.
Fully agree.
I have to believe we’d also all agree that the central issue lies in the pace and volume at which new vehicles and technologies have been introduced versus the rate of expansion and ‘decompression’ of the top Battle Ratings.
As it stands, we have about 20 years of aircraft design and advancement spread across approximately 7 to 8 battle ratings, with the next 40-50 years of technological advancement—which grew at an accelerated rate—crammed into only 5 or 6.
Hell, the BR difference separating a year or two of WW2 aircraft is roughly the difference between aircraft capable of engaging BVR and those that can not. That’s insane!
All-aspect missiles introduced a new BR.
Not sure why you claim no one wants decompression.
It wasn’t when MiG-23M gets R-60M.
Top BR was increased to 11.0 to 11.3 but, that’s because SARH + PD radar was meta just like how FGR.2 was insane and not related to all-aspect missiles.