Should premium Su-30s be moved to 13.7?

Just pressure it with amraams so it doesn’t get to relock.
With the HOBS buff on amraams you can launch them and then quickly go cold again anyway.

Besides, IOG can still be defeated if the target changes its altitude while defending.

that holds true for any ARH missile tho?

Well, yeah.
Though with ARHs you dont need to worry about keeping a hard lock, which is obviously a huge advantage.

To summarize the “range difference”, before, R-77 had a drag coefficient of 1.7 vs 120’s 1.425. Now it’s 1.425 vs 1.225. Combined with the fact that R-77 have more delta V, this results in extremely similar range now vs previous patch.

You dont neccesarily need to do that with R-27ER. You can launch them at extreme ranges, release the lock, and only update it once or twice during the flight time by relocking for a short time before hardlocking it and guiding it in terminal phase. R-27ER kinematics allow for that.

On top of that, it still accelerates stupidly fast. In some scenarios, especially when you dont need to go into defensive immidiately after launch, its much shorter TtT can be preferable.

Hm, interesting.
Gotta check that out then.

Does this affect R-77-1?

Can you check the data mines to see if they changed drag for R-77-1 as well?

Every missile except derbies have their drag adjusted. For 77-1s, this is 1.65 → 1.4
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Well, nevermind.
Instead of actually getting fixed, they are now worse than before.
Typical gaijin shenanigans.

So F-14 IRIAF at 13.3? Nah, because it was way too good with those really fast “Aim-54 clones” that people still can’t figure out how to notch yet… Yeah, it has a horrible radar, horrible RWR, and terrible countermeasures for 13.7… but you know what, it can magically datalink R-27s with its AWG-9 because we saw it in a photo and can’t prove it didn’t work, sooo let’s just shove that to 13.7.

Meanwhile, for the SU-30s It has 6 ARH + 4 IR missiles, or up to 6 R-27ERs, plenty of chaff and flares, great speed, and literally one of the best HARM loadouts in the game. Oh, and for Chinese MKK, it has access to both nations’ missile loadouts. The best of both worlds.

The Devs: Nah, we can’t bring it up to 13.7, it doesn’t make sense. I see a lot of people complaining about it, but it just doesn’t make sense.

Instead, just buff all the N001 radars and variants. Now the radar azimuth scan zone is completely unlocked (totally an intended feature and definitely not a bug), probably because they found some random secondary source in a marketing brochure like they did with the Kh-38MT.

The Devs: Yeah, 13.3. Let’s keep it there.

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Its more about the fakours being buggy as hell and fast as fuck, sometimes not even showing up on RWR until its already too late. But yes the premium Su30s definitly should go up, but they wont go up until they sold a massive batch at the sale thats in early november.

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OH GOLLY THATS ALOT OF SU 30S

HOW did you even get in a match with this

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It definitely needs to go to 13.7; it has ruined the Battle Rating not just for the F-14 but also for the 12.3 tier. It’s ridiculous, for instance, to have to face a barrage of PL-12s and RVVs from Su-30s while flying a Bison.

I dont know man , i was playing with my friend in 13.3

at this point they should just trow those flankers to 14.0 and move the top tier to 15.0 or smth, even on a F18C its pretty much hell to fight those guys that can pretty much just trow 10 missiles at you while you cant even keep your lock on to get a single one out

It’s barely a middle of the pack 13.7. It’s too strong at 13.3, but it’s not even close to 14.0 capable lmao.

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