I dont know man , i was playing with my friend in 13.3
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It’s barely a middle of the pack 13.7. It’s too strong at 13.3, but it’s not even close to 14.0 capable lmao.
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This right here
you guys don’t know how to hang with it.
Actually it was done using an actual flight manual for this iirc
Ping Ralin and he can explain it better since he made the report
It was an internal report so no report was linked for the change
Makes the 13.3 and 13.7 flankers easily good enough to move up in br
0 arguments regarding “muh, radar bad” anymore
Nvm, he explained it to you already lmao
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My dude I own the MKK, even as an owner I can tell it’s undertiered, what are you talking about?
Yes they absolutely shoud be moved it’s not even a debate.
In last 3 years I saw so many players suggesting BR, and even after Devs accept it theres a still a problem. Also I noticed only premiums, who are in my opinion always worst plane out of that rank, are being pushed to be moved where they are unplayable, I dont know if this is some personal beef but I hope devs stop listening to you and do their own thing. Thats me being honest. I dont think people supporting the game with money should be punished because of ARB repetitive, boring, not worthy to play game mode.
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Exactly. This is a reason why I refrain from buying them. The Su-30 issue is just a manifestation of the problem of compression. People should be just complaining about compression, not this particular aircraft. I do agree that it’s hard to balance because it’s strong for 13.3 and weak for 13.7. At 13.7 there would be no reason to play them. In the meantime while waiting for decompression two more Fox-3:s could be removed while waiting for decompression. And how about the J-11A and MiG-29N, why isn’t anyone talking about them?
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Not really.
these people being unaware about the su30mkk and mk2 being the old su27sm flanker fm and weapkit that was 13.7 before weapon and fm buffs+200kg heavier, its comedic how thinly veiled their defense is because they own it and abuse it.
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Everyone still blaning the premium flanker when its the game
12.3 can only face 4x 13.3 jets= 24 fox 3. Nerf flanker and its f16 with 24 fox 3
The f16 can beat the flanker in a dogfight but F16a now fights the same aircraft (if flanker goes 13.7) leaving it with exactly no advantage
Careful what you wish for
It won’t be weak at 13.7 idk what are you talking about, literally Su-27SM but 2 missiles short. At 13.0 there is a cappability separation, below are planes without ARH, above are planes with ARH missiles. Anything below 13.0 fighting Su-30s have absolutely miserable time because of massive capability gap. Su-30s fighting 13.7+ jets experience sligth annoyance, there are no capability gaps, just slightly better planes.
Because those are not Premium planes that can be bought and spammed, which Su-30s are.
Absolutely insane out of touch take. It’s cool that you know about thing like turn rate, and it’s cool that you maybe saw missiless duels but this is not realities of the game. Reality of the game is such that Su-30 has better ARH missile for dogfight, it has better IR missile for dogfight, it has more of them, and it has funny button that completely negates any advantage F-16 had maneuverability vise.
Not 1 time have i seen anyone hit the button and get the kill- its the opposite. R73s are not the demented missiles they once was either.
Survive 2 loops - sometimes just 1 if they pull hard and the flanker floats about like paper bag
What difference does it make past BVR if the fox 3 has been fired by a flanker or f16? 6x 120s or 6 x 77s
That’s kind of the point of premium aircraft that they can be bought and spammed? Your comment just highlights the fact stated by @Saitama_420_psn that people try to push premiums up because they are premiums not because of their actual capabilities.
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Because average flanker player leaves more to be desired. It has nothing to do with planes actual potential and capabilities.
Whatever that means. What mattters is that it can be used in dogfight at all, unlike 9M that simply lacks maneuverability to be used past initial engagmeent at all.
R-77s pulls insane at closer rannges unlike aim-120, after the buff aim-120 is much, much more usable now but R-77 does absolutely physics defying things.
I don’t even bring R-73’s. They are worthless as their IRCCM doesn’t work and they cause the need to fiddle with the secondary weapons selector to launch F3’s.
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Premium Su30s arent spammed because theyre premiums but because theyre too strong at 13.3.
Dont know about him, im saying premium Su30s need to go up precisely because of their capabilities, something I know first hand as ive played MKK extensively.
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