R-60 pulled more,yes but its range is very bad,and it was flare hungry. Meanwhile 9L was near impossible to flare for ages and could have been launched from 4km and hit without issue.
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no like the Tor physically cant hit something 5km away 100% of the time the missile doesn’t track
You’ve played a whole 5 games at 9.0
You dont own a single plane above 10.3 you’ve literally never seen an R-27ER
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The R-60M pulls less than the Aim-9L what are you on about
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No
I have TOR and M113 ADATS
The ADATS is actually usable.
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SKR-1 and SKR-7. Also the missile Destroyer.
I’ve had more full uptiers than that, but it doesn’t change my point.
Which matters why?
It pulls the same, and in the past ten months they’ve had the R-73 which pulls more.
8.0 rarely gets uptiered youve got at most 10 games at 9.0 you haven’t played that br pretty much you dont get an opinion about 9.0
If a new player started yapping right now about how the T-80BVM is stomping toptier and he only has 3.7 would you actually listen to him, of course not
It literally doesn’t the 9L pulls alot harder and the R-73 is a toptier missile you should compare it to the 9M
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Level 100 vs level 10, who do you think would win? one who has been playing for years and years or the one who started 3 days ago?
The issue is that NATO use mutliple vehicles for their SAMs, and not an enclosed SPAA like russia does.
As long as Gaijin is too incompetent to figure out a way to add these vehicles, then NATO is simply out of luck. The only one that fits the bill is the NASAM TELAR, which is a Norwegian SPAA.
What i would do is remove the Pantsir, add the TOR back to Russian and remove all weaponry that can track beyond 10km range.
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man I love skr7 and thats coming from someone who hates naval. such a fun (also free) ship to play with
I enjoy it too, pretty fun frigate. I want to try the two new US frigates, but the grind for top tier costals is rough.
It’s not Gaijins fault France didn’t use them until much later.
Aim for the LFP, or any flat plate of armour.
That isn’t out of the ordinary. the PUMA was moved up quickly when it was added at a lower BR.
Russia also has some downsides, like consistently worse reloads, worse gun handling, worse gun depression, and worse reverse speeds. They are also one of the last nations to get thermals on MBTs.
Just play them … play them over all BRs a thousand battles. Then we talk again …
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br system not exsist bro
Wouldn’t mind if they actually allow the TOR missiles to be entirely radar guided instead of radar assisted like they are currently or just finally revert the stupid SACLOS changes but it should keep its over 10km track ability otherwise it would just be useless against SPAA
On proper notes: Whoever this guy is. Would be wrong.
Ranges:
Russa/USSR
9M39 Igla:
Launch: 5.20 km
Lock range (rear-aspect): 11.00 km
Lock range (all-aspect): 6.00 km
9M120 Ataka: Firing Range: 6 km
Firing range: 10 km
Guaranteed launch range: 8 km
United States:
ATAS (AIM-92):
Lock range (rear-aspect): 6 km
Lock range (all-aspect): 6 km
Launch range: 5 km
APKWS II(M282):
Firing Range: 11 km
Guaranteed launch range: 5 km
APKWS II(M151):
Firing Range: 11 km
Guaranteed launch range: 5 km
AGM 114K Hellfire II:
Firing range: 8 km
Guaranteed launch range: 8 km
I could provide more stats from the Wiki, however point still stands. While Russian Missiles do have better ranges they are still overall worse. When it comes to either locking on, keeping that lock, or being slower.
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Bro has some good points right there
Reality doesn’t apply to this game in terms of who has the most advanced weaponry. If one nation gets ahead in real life, those vehicles should face their newer equals due to the BR system.
Obviously this isn’t always the case in practice, but it’s how it should be.
I feel like its exactly the opposite as in higher ranks the russian tanks are nothing compared to german. Russian have bad reverse speed, low gun elevation and doesnt have anything like german composite armor. Russian tanks get shot thru and destroyed by one round but german tanks dont.
Bro, the little bits of reality carrying over are what makes the game fun. Imagine if panthers got brought the regular Pershing BR, they are roughly equivalent, but it would ruin Germany players fun. There will always be some country in game with the best stuff at a BR, I think it’s better if that is somewhat based on reality, with moderation.
Also the US having good destroyers is balanced by the reload times on the battleships. Let US have fun at the lower tiers of bluewater