How to get this baby? I’m below one year in WT … seems to be impossible.
i mean zsu-57-2 is kind of worse for those things…but ok. i don’t see a problem here…
- Pecanin Air targets destroyed 2865 Play time 3.2 M
- Kilun88 Air targets destroyed 6027 Play time 1.9 M
no problemo
I think it will be back in november ,when maus comes again
Guys, please take stat-shaming and stat-whoring to PMs…
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The King Panther, KT105, and Coelian have not come back at all in any prior time the Maus has.
no shaming. just statistics
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Too many of these threads have been derailed over the years by devolving them into “my stats are better than yours, therefore my opinion overrides yours!” sort of arguments.
Thus, no matter your justification, please leave individual player statistics out of the discussion.
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Told you ,jump in 341 and shoot those planes down
Are you sure ?
I think 341 was on in 2020 ,not sure
Sorry, i was politely asked not to prove my point.
K/D ,wow ,just wow
Too bad that most of your air kills are Russian tt
No, it has been gone since 1.91 and has never returned.
I think it does newer players a grave misservice, because those machines are such a cut above the main tree machines Germany has its not even funny.
That being said, I wish uninstalling the NVD on the Panther II physically removed the NVD scope from the driver’s viewport. It blocks the gun traverse in the most obnoxious manner and has gotten me killed many times.
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TBH since they nerfed it so much (in SPAA role) ,it is better that it is not in game for new players .Traverse speed for Air targets is just bs ,ammo pen is even worse …way that guns are shooting is just funny
Panther II NS is just useless since it now doesn’t go into night battles and gives your position away
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The Coelian still has the same 42 degrees/second the Kugelblitz does.
It is, however, lacking APCR rounds (the same type found on the BK 3,7 for the Stuka G1, G2, Hs-129B-2, and Bf-110G-2).
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They should reintroduce the Coelian imo.
Its close enough to real to be put back ingame, and would help boost german SPAA.
I think all three should be reintroduced, because as it stands the degree of advantage they give to the owner over the tech tree is pretty significant.
I say this as an owner of all three.
I’ve used both 341 and kugel from day they were released ,gun handling against aerial targets is horrible now.
Funniest thing is that those that cried on forum back in the day about German Spaa’s killing their tanks are saying nothing now about others that were added …some with completely fictional ammo.
It is not just ammo that it is missing and in kugels case turret rotation …it is that all german ammo of 20 & 30 mm was nerfed back in the day because of people crying about performance of Pz II’s guns
Even funnier - I am actually in favor of SPAAG having fictional ammo for balance reasons if it allows an AA to fill a vital gameplay role.
For example - the Ostwind at 3.3 will simply never be fun to use because it cannot defend itself except against particularly brainless light tanks. Thus I would give it its missing APCR belt and intentionally NOT uptier it.
The reason was partly due to 20mm HVAP spam (on the Panzer IIs, Flakpanzer 1, Flakpanzer 38, SdKfz 140/1, and finally 20mm Puma), but also due to complaints about the Horten 229. I was there when it got dropped from 8.0 to 7.0 and certain folk went ballistic.
I’ve stopped using 341 completely just like kugel
There is German SPAA that is better than both and it sits at 3.3 or 3.7 …not logged in game atm so cant say for sure .
10 x better than 341 or kugel
Honestly- bring Coelian back to tech tree, and KT 105 and Panther II with the Maus.
KT 105 is paper (And impossible iirc), and Panther II is completely made up, so imo they shouldnt be straight tech tree.
Coelian had a turret mockup made, and the hull is just a panther hull, which makes it real enough to be in the tech tree imo.