why do you want to change the br from 13.3 back to 12.7?
To me 13.3 is the best br in the game, like 70 percent of my games are at least partial down tiers which is amazing.
While 12.7 is horrid due to constant uptiers. Might as well be in the 13.3 plane instead of the 12.7 one in those matches
Please Gaijin just make an F-16 ADF (early) and (late) foldered. Could be so simple.
I really want the F-16 with Sparrows just to fly in SIM. Now I have to grind all the way through the Japanese tree for the F-16AJ as that’s the only one that has this
You’d be sitting at 13.0 in sim.
Enjoy
I know. It’s going to be tough. Like a worse F-2 ADTW. On the other hand the F-16 flight model is GOAT. 12.7 would be too low for this, 13.0 be too high. Compression…
12.7 would be perfectly fine for the F-16AJ in sim.
It should absolutely not be at 13.0.
F-16AJ and 13.0 MiG-29s should go down to 12.7 in sim.
They’re nowhere near powerful enough at 13.0 but will be balanced at 12.7
My dream would be 9M + 7M @ 13.0. That might be balanced, or maybe too good (like F-2 ADTW with AAM3 + 7M, but still AAM3 > 9M, and the F-16 only has 6 missiles in total vs 8 for the F-2, so it’s possible).
I’ve NEVER understood why we get AMRAAM’s + 9L on an F-16. 9M was developed in the Early/Mid 1980’s. AMRAAM in the Early/Mid 1990’s… We should get 9M’s before AMRAAMS, but for some reason the ADF has AMRAAM + 9L? And we get the French F-16A OCU has 9M + Magic 2 at 12.7? And then the Dutch Event F-16A with only 9L and a non-TWS radar (which is so, so much worse) also at 12.7?!? It’s so weird.
First of all the F-16’s with just 9L’s and a not-TWS radar could be moved down to 12.3 in SIM.
Same for the Mig-29 btw. Why it has R-27ER but not R-73? It’s also so weird. The Mig-29 should get R-73 as the whole jet was basically developed around that missile (R-73 was like the signature thing for the Mig-29, not the BVR R-27ER). What does Gaijin have against IRCCM missiles?!? Give a Mig-29 with R-73+R27(non-ER), and an F-16 with Aim-9M + 7M. That would be so much fun to fight against each other. (with the flight model that also should be improved for the Mig-29 man). Push each other using your shitty SARH missiles, and try to get in range for the IRCCM shot.
I don’t think you really understand what is being written here. 11.7 has almost no planes in existence. There’s the MiG-23 and…
And as you know, aim7m will never hit if enemy moves at all at long range, so all this aim7m benefit is whatever. Most battles it is whoever sees who first and the radar is barely better for finding people. Many would write the HMS is infinitely better than ACM too, so locking where it matters to fire first.
Yes and you are vulnerable to fox 1 while they are immune, it is a trade off.
Exactly what I’ve been writing lol.
So you agree even more so that the F-15 wins here… what is an F-4S going to do in a dogfight
Not hard to avoid
Every match is basically a third party bonanza with tons of baiting and ratting though, dogfight is like a suicide warrant most of the time unless u get one of those big size maps.
Which the F-15 is god tier at
MiG-23ML/MLA/MLD have played total of 1 mil games during march.
F-4S has played some 700k games during march.
Premium Hornets account for 2 mil games over march.
Its entirely plausible for F-15As to be downtiered.
Unless you want to claim all of your battles were uptiers which, firstly, confirmation bias and secondly ive got back to playing premium Hornet since march 22 and ive been getting downtiers consistently so one of us is making stuff up, issue is I have server replays to back up my claim if neccesary.
You sure you want to die on your hill?
Sure I will go for it. Because there are so many 12.7’s, it hits the rule of 4 every single time. F15a, F15j, f18c swiss, f18c cf188a, f18c early usa and times 10x onwards. There is never going to be enough space for 12.7’s to be put in full downtier reliably for this use case. 11.7-12.7 has 4 spot.
The su-30mkk has 1.1 million in March. The su-33 is 1.1 million in March. The su-30mk2 is 1.0 million in March.
I just spaded both the f15a and f15j and 80% of matches are 13.3 or 13.7 , and in the 13.3 there are very few 12.3 in the match. I never saw a single MiG-23 in any game. This is not a joke or hyperbole.
This doesn’t matter. It means the F-15 is still uber-compressing downwards and making games unfair.
It is because you will lose against fox 3 and R-27ERs.
F-2A has horrible high speed manuverability
It flies even worse than Su-30s at high speed. Acceleration is slow but top speed isn’t an issue.
F-15A/J flies much better, has way faster acceleration.
Compensated by R-27ER and HMS.
Aim-7P alone makes this thing much better, and the missile count too.
Solid agree here. F-16s generally struggle.
Anyway, in the same BR bracket, you will have some planes that are better or worse. The Netz Mod is a straight upgrade over the Kurass 2000, but even then, the Kurass 2000 is argued to be ‘fair’ in 12.3, against F-4EJ Kai, just giving an example.
you’re just putting yourself at a disadvantage doing that, you can’t engage them while being limited to just horizontal movement just to rely on a gambling mechanic.
You multipath, you lose
Genuinely just notch bro
Slow down
F-15A only has better high speed performance.
2 R-27ERs which you can just defeat easily and the plane is dead.
HMS won’t save it after that.
If you lose a df to any MiG-29 with the F-2, that’s not on the plane, that’s 1000% on you being dumb
worse radar, worse IR missiles, even worse flight performance.
All the F-18 has is better Fox-1s
Everything else about the F-2 more than compensates for that
This is just compression
You see the same thing when comparing any 13.0-13.7 fulcrum with a flanker at the same br
Was it though?
In March 25, ITA F16 ADF had WR 46.7% and 0.96 kill ratio over 27k games.
In March 26, 52.1% WR and 1.16 kill ratio over 31k games.
i never said anything about stats. the plane was good.
I havent played in like 5 days since ive been binging destiny 2 with my bro but literally first game today
Ill put in like 10 games today and lets see the results
folk, ADF are perfect with Fox-3, one of the jets that can put a competition to Su-30MKK/MK2
What does it mean “good” if it had 46% WR and sub 1 kill ratio?
