I didn’t say the radar was supreme, I said its not bad enough to cause real issues
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While I certainly didnt have fun with F-15A radar, the bottom line is its not N019E
It starts causing real issues in the 13.7 F-15’s but for the F-15A it is serviceable. Was a lot better back then.
Right now it has worse range than the F-16 radars, has trouble maintaining locks at range, the PD RAM mode is broken and useless… For using Sparrows it is serviceable, but I miss the PD RAM mode to “soft lock” targets and point AIM-9Ms from above.
Im seeing a lot of skill issues in here
I take exception to this when the Tornado F.3 exists. The Foxhunter radar is infinitely stronger than any F-4 Radar. Only advantage the F-4S has is that it can actually roll sparrows shot at it and has an HMS.
Tornado has the flight model of a dead whale
This is a fair assessment and is the sole reason the F.3 is at 12.0 BR. If it had an actual flight model it would be easy 12.3 material. Its got better avionics than some 13.0 planes. And I would still much rather fly the Tornado because the radar actually functions than I would an F-4 which loses lock for no reason or gets spooked by ground clutter.
Global Statistic are also a pretty good indicator for the F.3.
Granted the F-4S suffers from being a premium plane, so I tried to use the F-4J’s stats and they’re identical lmao (US teams have a collective IQ level that seems to be in the single digits.)
deserved to be fair most unfair exception ever made best F16A FM and you get sparrows its not a very fair vehicle
F4J models are literally the worst 12.0s in the game and they face constant uptiers to 13.0 with R27ERs and infinitely better FM unslated F4 vs supermanuverable demon fighter SU33
I agree, but it has the FM it has, which is why the F-4S is overall superior. The amount of times the foxhunter radar is going to keep a lock while the F-4S radar isn’t is less than the amount of times you’re going to die because your plane is both not that fast and also incredibly brickish in maneuvers.
F-4 can’t see the ground at all in PDV mode. This isn’t a thing. Are you using it in SRC pulse or something?
Nope. It’s a good indicator of how bad USA pilots are. Let’s not pretend global statistics are actually some form of identifier for minor nation jets with 10x less playtime.
I haven’t even mentioned this. It being in the USA tree alone is enough to tank its stats. Premium on top of that is tripling down.
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What?
in my experince with it you face consant uptiers and have no airframe to rely on your a slow F4 against su33 65% of matches are uptiers it can work buts its far from op as the sparrows do sparrow things on the F4J and just brick themselves and the british ones have same problems
its really only use in uptiers is a support fighter
And what 12.0 does in this situation? F-4S still the best 12.0
I can just go off my own experience. My FGR.2 in track mode lost lock when a target dipped near the ground and I was looking directly at them, switched to PDV mode and it refused to lock.
at least with the Foxhunter radar I can get a good idea of where the enemy team is thanks to the TWS mode it gets and a rather generous range on that radar as well.
Faster than the F-4S, especially when the F-4S/J is using their gunpod which hurts flight performance. I’ve outrun just about every F-4 in the game with the F.3. And lately have been quite easily defeating them because I changed how I play and now I am 9/10 times in the more advantageous position to launch my missile at them. There will never come a time when I ever feel like the F-4 is superior to the Tornado F.3. Ever. The only thing I consider the F-4 to be better in is maneuverability, that is it. Literally better avionics, more CMs and am faster.
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there arent many really the F4 is the most numerous plane at 12.0 just do to variants im not saying it should go down but shouldnt go up either as just .3 higher we Got straight demons like F18A
PDV mode cannot see the ground. It is the entire point of the mode. You should be defaulting to PDV and never swapping to SRC pulse unless the target is running from you in cold aspect because PDV struggles with cold aspect
Very marginal
It absolutely needs to go up when/if the game is decompressed as its just better than other 12.0s. Youi need to stop reading my posts and constantly thinking I’m suggesting to uptier it right now under current compression.
if it ever happens yes then go ahead but gaijin cant sell premiums without compression
+1
Why this thing got AIM-120s while US had F-16 Block 25 or 30?
And italy only has 1 capable fox 1 slinger being the adv. It would have the mig 29 if that thing wasn’t nerfed into the dirt.
Well, I do support AIM-120s on Italian ADF. It is their historical loadout.
One option could be ASA-M. It would have suboptimal unbearable performance but might be placed at 12.3 with Active Aspides
Again, no fox 1 but you have better missiles at 12.3