Fox 1 no irccm fox 2’s 12.7 if irccm 13.0.
F-15A/J at 12.7:
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R27ER can be 13.0, that thing is a league above other fox2 missiles
Every single game is basically 13.3 planes bro it’s so much worse now than before. I’d say 60% 13.3, 25% 13.7 and like rest is whatever… No radar on F15A either just straight garbage.
The game should just be decompressed. I shouldn’t have to explain this to you.
Please go play literally any 11.7-12.3 jet and go fight a F-15A/J and let me know how it goes for you.
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I play the premium J7 prototype (12.3) a lot and i rarely see any F15A. F14 IRAF are way more common and are much more annoying
Is that what I asked you?
Simply, very simply, try to fight a slightly decent F-15A pilot in any 11.7-12.3 jet. You will die 100 times over with zero kills. F-15 is undertiered. You thinking that it’s ok that it’s undertiered because the alternative is that its a very mid vehicle (and just that, very mid) is your own personal problem.
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depends in what plane im in. F15A airframe is really good, it is probably the best airframe in a full-tier (goes for basically everyplane across all BR, nothing new), but the missile are mid
it isnt
F15A wasnt mid, it was pretty bad at 13.0, it either get pull up to 14.0 (lol) and get curb stomp or get full down-tier to 12.0 (never happen) and do somewhat decent
“I don’t face them often!” isnt an answer to what I said. Entirely different conversation.
No it doesn’t. Every single 11.7-12.3 in game besides maybe the Mirage 2K is food to the F-15. Fully unwinnable fight if the F-15 doesn’t misplay.
If you do any level of critical thinking and compare the F-15 directly to the other 12.7 jets, it stands easily above ALL of them in OBVIOUS ways. It’s strictly better. It also isn’t beatable by any 11.7-12.3 jet in the game besides maybe M2K. Simply. Isn’t. Beatable. Just better.
I played F-15A/J before at 13.0. They were just mid. They were not unplayable. They were not “bad”. Mid. Not fun, sure, also not bad enough to be downtiered.
that’s like every plane at their respective BR dude; you’ll never lose if you don’t misplay…
F15A is carried by its engine, airframe, and aim9m. It lacks any mid-to-long range weapon (I know aim7m is “medium” range, but it’s just useless when it’s up against 27ER and fox3) and 12.7 is the highest aim7m should ever be at. And even at 12.7, it’s still being pulled up to 13.3 very often so 12.7 change just spare it from 14.0
Nope. Plenty of planes can hit upward and have advantages that can’t be directly disabled by the other guy playing just “decently”. In fact I’d say the majority are like this. The F-15 is straight up not beatable if the F-15 pilot has even the slightest clue of how he’s meant to play it.
A P-51H-5, as overpowered as it is, can still be beat by an A7M2 if the P-51H pilot is just “decent”. If the F-15A pilot is “decent” he will literally go 100-0 against a F-4S, which is the current strongest 12.0 jet in game.
Ok. Remove the AIM-9Ms then, that sound good? Because that is what is needed to make this jet anywhere near fair for 12.7.
Unironically agree.
F-2 ADTW is overshadowed by the F-15 despite better avionics.
The F-2A is a missile bus with bad SARHs and a weak engine.
Aim-7M is as slow as it is, the F-2A further helps this by extreme compression on high speed, reducing manuverability greatly compared to the F-15J.
F-2A has horrible flight performance for anything outside of 1v1 duels. You can try this yourself on test flight and fly it above mach 1, go up and down. Even Su-30 has better nose control at Mach 1+.
Worse maneuverability means it can’t comfortably play the multipath meta then pop up and down to use the ACM mode to shoot SARHs as easily as other planes.
I mean, I have dogfight a Su-30 (inexperienced players) before with the F-18C with two circles, and won (duh), which would be even better with the F-2A, but ask yourself, how common these scrnarios are?
No thanks. BR compression is bad. Learn this. Drill it deep into the cerebral.
they should have divided it between like early with only sparrows and 9Ls at 12.7 and late with like the aim120s and 9Ms at 13.3. and folder both of them
the reason i havent played the 13.3 one (china) is because it gets 2 120s stock and fucking 9Ps… at 13.3, let that sink in
What a joke lol. AIR RB is not a series of 1v1’s it does not have the avionics or weapons to actually solo matches easily. If you put the plane at 13.0 the game balance is far worse in other direction.
it is also laughable people saying it is 10x better than F2A, which actually has a radar. The F15A does not have a radar.
The engine isn’t weak, the F-2A has a very decent climb rate. It’s just very draggy past mach because of the wing design, same issue as the F-18.
But at the same time, you have unmatched energy retention in turns. AESA radar and AAM-3 are also an upgrade. The radar is amazing.
Both F-15A/J and F-2 ADTW belong in 13.0 without a doubt. Su-27 should be a step above, but BRs are too compressed
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It doesn’t have to be. F-15 isn’t dying here unless it’s massively outnumbered. You can easily 2v1 or even 3v1 in the F-15 if all you’re facing are 11.7-12.3s jets.
Nope. F-15 at 12.7 currently means all of 11.7-12.3 suffers badly in uptiers. Putting F-15 to 13.0 means only F-15 suffers.
I’ve never had an issue with the F-15A"s radar so this is telling me skill issues
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Most people have issues with the f15a radar
It loses lock for no reason at all. Has.no HMS to relock and really isnt the beast you make it out to be
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